So whether he "should" have or should not have been where he was, he was there legally and as we now know, he legally possesed that AR. The irony being that if it had been a handgun, it would have been illegal if I understand it right.
So he is legally there, in legal possession of a long gun. Only thing to decide, is did he meet the letter and spirit of the law on self defense. Funny thing is, whether he was legally there, with a legal gun has nothing to do with his right to self defense. The prosecutor was making the case that those two things negated his right to self defense. The only way you lose your right to claim self defense, is if he "provoked" the confrontation. The prosecutor suggests that simply being there with that gun proves provocation. The judge blew a hole in that argument so we are left with the video show that everybody shot were the aggressors.
I wasn't real impressed by the defense attorney's closing argument. At one point he said "come on man" to the jury which could be construed as insulting, something an attorney never wants to do to a jury, turn them off to the attorney.
I'm getting the sinking feeling that Rittenhouse is going to get some jail time. I certainly wouldn't give him any but who the hell knows what any of these jury members are thinking. They might have been convinced that the only way to avoid burning the city down, is to find him guilty of something.
I hope I'm wrong. Originally Posted by HedonistForever
If he goes to jail maybe he can give that crying bit another shot. Or self defense. He’ll have all options when dealing with his celly. Originally Posted by NoirManModerator take note; this member is in favor of child molesters and homosexual rape. I expect that he will be expelled for his stated beliefs so as not to taint the rest of us whoremongers.
You can be any race, color, creed it won't matter.If you run towards a Police Officer with an AR-15 in your hand or any kind of weapon for that matter in the middle of a protest and I am pretty sure it's safe to assume you're going to get killed. Originally Posted by Levianon17I am proof that that is not true. Some years ago while visiting my parents in rural Missouri I heard a truck drive by at high speed and no headlights. My parents said it was the idiot up the road. They were not sophisticated enough to realize that they were describing a meth lab. Suddenly several police cars and state troopers went by. My parents said that the idiot would drive in without lights and cross fields (including my parents and brother's) to get home without being seen on the road. I could hear engines in the field. I went outside to see what was going on. I walked into the hay field...did I mention that I grabbed a weapon before I went outside? Anyway, I walked into the hay field and I could hear a car approaching slowly. As my eyes adjusted to the darkness, I could see a black and white SUV. So I dropped the weapon to the length of the sling (it was a MAK90) and WALked towards the cruiser with my hands in the air. The occupant asked if I lived there. I pointed to the house about 50 yards away and said right there. So we had a conversation about what was going on. They found the guy "at home" where he said he had been all night.
I am proof that that is not true. Some years ago while visiting my parents in rural Missouri I heard a truck drive by at high speed and no headlights. My parents said it was the idiot up the road. They were not sophisticated enough to realize that they were describing a meth lab. Suddenly several police cars and state troopers went by. My parents said that the idiot would drive in without lights and cross fields (including my parents and brother's) to get home without being seen on the road. I could hear engines in the field. I went outside to see what was going on. I walked into the hay field...did I mention that I grabbed a weapon before I went outside? Anyway, I walked into the hay field and I could hear a car approaching slowly. As my eyes adjusted to the darkness, I could see a black and white SUV. So I dropped the weapon to the length of the sling (it was a MAK90) and WALked towards the cruiser with my hands in the air. The occupant asked if I lived there. I pointed to the house about 50 yards away and said right there. So we had a conversation about what was going on. They found the guy "at home" where he said he had been all night.Were you running towards them?
So, you can approach the police armed if you are showing you are not a threat. Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn
I agree
I wasn't real impressed by the defense attorney's closing argument. At one point he said "come on man" to the jury which could be construed as insulting, something an attorney never wants to do to a jury, turn them off to the attorney.
I'm getting the sinking feeling that Rittenhouse is going to get some jail time. I certainly wouldn't give him any but who the hell knows what any of these jury members are thinking. They might have been convinced that the only way to avoid burning the city down, is to find him guilty of something.
I hope I'm wrong. Originally Posted by HedonistForever
