Ironic That Trump Loves The Military And Generals But Was A Draft Dodger !

I think there are many ways to serve your country and the people that occupy it besides donning a uniform and toting a rife and going thousands of miles away to risk your life or to kill another human being that you have no quarrel with in a foreign land just because your country thinks you should. Trump went in a different direction, he didn't do it illegally and he has made some impressive contributions here at home. I don't hold it against him that he didn't serve in the Military. He's serving his country as President, it doesn't get much better than that.

Jim Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

People in the military put their lives on the line in support of their country. Politicians do not. For whatever reasons, the leaders of this country thought it to be important to send half a million soldiers to Vietnam at one point in time. 58,220 soldiers lost their lives and countless others were physically and mentally wounded. Yes, their are many ways to serve your country but serving in the military is, to me, a batter way than being POTUS.

That's an untrue statement. If that were a true statement probably 90% of those drafted in the 60's would not have "served"! His official records will reflect that determination based on the medical evidence received by the board who authorized his deferment. That is the "legal" method, even if the cops don't stop you and say it's "against the law."

On the other hand ... Clinton deceived and lied. His propensity for LYING continued into his Presidency during which he LIED AGAIN to the American people and yet again under oath as DETERMINED by a Federal Judge presiding over the preceding in which he lied under oath. Lying on documents utilized by the Federal Government is a felony, whether you "think" it is or not and even if the cops don't stop you and say it's "against the law."

You're about as qualified at legal analysis as you are predicting the outcomes of Presidential elections. Zip! Originally Posted by LexusLover

Stay out of this old man. When you can say you've served in the military then you can rejoin the conversation.

Jim, these same full of shit loudmouths whined about Bush II not "really serving" in the military, because he was in the "Air Guard" and it ended up with fake paper work in an attempt to prove he was AWOL.

You are wasting your good sense on them. They NEVER criticize Obaminable or PERJURY BILL for NOT SERVING IN THE MILITARY but will argue about somone's "bone spur" .... trying to ignore reality. Originally Posted by LexusLover

You are starting off the day showing off your stupidity in full form. Did I mention Clinton as a possible draft dodger? YES!! Has anyone in this discussion mentioned Bush? NO!!

The draft ended in 1973. End of draft dodging.

I find it rather amusing that Jim and I can have a rather pleasant discussion on this subject and you feel it necessary to come in and drag the thread into the gutter. As usual. Sort of like a lying, ignorant, redneck, hillbilly.

You are old but you have a lot of growing up to do.

Jim, these same full of shit loudmouths whined about Bush II not "really serving" in the military, because he was in the "Air Guard" and it ended up with fake paper work in an attempt to prove he was AWOL.

You are wasting your good sense on them. They NEVER criticize Obaminable or PERJURY BILL for NOT SERVING IN THE MILITARY but will argue about somone's "bone spur" .... trying to ignore reality. Originally Posted by LexusLover

I wasn't on this forum when Bush was president, but I can just imagine. These Liberals bring more conflict into this forum than they are worth. They aren't nearly as educated as they think they are, and they have absolutely no common sense what so ever. Name calling and insults is all they have.


Jim

People in the military put their lives on the line in support of their country. Politicians do not. For whatever reasons, the leaders of this country thought it to be important to send half a million soldiers to Vietnam at one point in time. 58,220 soldiers lost their lives and countless others were physically and mentally wounded. Yes, their are many ways to serve your country but serving in the military is, to me, a batter way than being POTUS. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I wonder if John F. Kennedy would have a different opinion of that.



Jim

I wasn't on this forum when Bush was president, but I can just imagine. These Liberals bring more conflict into this forum than they are worth. They aren't nearly as educated as they think they are, and they have absolutely no common sense what so ever. Name calling and insults is all they have.


Jim Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

And they act offended when they get a dose of their own medicine from other posters in this forum.

I wonder if John F. Kennedy would have a different opinion of that.



Jim Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

I think you know the difference without me having to explain it to you.

I think you know the difference without me having to explain it to you. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I am not sure if you really understand the whole idea of War and what's really at stake. Here's a hint it's got nothing to do with your liberties, freedom
or peace.
Jim

Did you serve? Originally Posted by TheDaliLama

I did.. 20 years in the Navy. Bro did 3 in the AF, father also 24 years in the AF.. What about you?

Stay out of this old man. When you can say you've served in the military then you can rejoin the conversation. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Are you a MOD now or do you just "believe" you are.

I'm in the conversation. Go back to 6th street where you belong.

I wonder if John F. Kennedy would have a different opinion of that.



Jim Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

He's not old enough to understand the difference.

He's also not intelligent enough to understand there is politics in the military as well.

If I recall he's never been in a "live fire" situation. Just plinking at paper.

I am not sure if you really understand the whole idea of War and what's really at stake. Here's a hint it's got nothing to do with your liberties, freedom
or peace.
Jim Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

He's not old enough to understand the difference.

He's also not intelligent enough to understand there is politics in the military as well.

If I recall he's never been in a "live fire" situation. Just plinking at paper. Originally Posted by LexusLover

Same answer!

I wasn't on this forum when Bush was president, but I can just imagine. These Liberals bring more conflict into this forum than they are worth. They aren't nearly as educated as they think they are, and they have absolutely no common sense what so ever. Name calling and insults is all they have.


Jim Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

I was on aspd political forum and LL was cheering Bush as he headed into Iraq like he owned Halliburton.

Next thing you know, Trump was running in 2016 and saying how stupid and costly that war was and LexusLover seem to have amnesia!

So you half right about a group being being conflicted....group of God damn chicken hawks!

You are old but you have a lot of growing up to do. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Too bad when you get to my age you won't be able to type or fuck, if you get to my age.

I was on aspd political forum and LL was cheering Bush as he headed into Iraq like he owned Halliburton.
Originally Posted by WTF

Mojo ... we're still in Iraq!!!!

.... Afghanistan and Syria! But you know that. WTF doesn't!

"Conflicted" ... ?? WTF's afflicted!

WTF is opposed to the military and having a military! He's the Jane Fonda of Eccie~!