Obama Wanted to Apologizes to Japan for the Atomic Bomb!

Is it a coincidence that the Reverend Jeremiah Wright condemns American for dropping the nuclear bombs and Odumbo wanting to apologize? Maybe he was listening.....

Curious why Rev. Wright isn't talking about Jesus instead.....Oh Yeah! I almost forgot! It's because Black Liberation Theology is not a religion, just communism hiding behind the facade of a religion!

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Some interesting history:

My mother is Japanese, born and raised in Honolulu.
Her parents fled Hiroshima, Japan, in 1922 to Hawaii to start a new life because the Japanese government was ruled by the military services.
My mother and her siblings sat on the roof of their house in Kalihi district of Honolulu and watched the bombing of Pearl Harbor.
Her father, my grandfather, knew what was coming; they were sent to an internment camp.
My great grandparents perished in the Hiroshima atomic bomb blast.

This is what my grandfather told me when I worked for him during the summer of 1966 ... "We are Americans. We should NEVER apologize for doing whatever is required to end a war."

Just my family's personal history and my opinion.

Some interesting history:

My mother is Japanese, born and raised in Honolulu.
Her parents fled Hiroshima, Japan, in 1922 to Hawaii to start a new life because the Japanese government was ruled by the military services.
My mother and her siblings sat on the roof of their house in Kalihi district of Honolulu and watched the bombing of Pearl Harbor.
Her father, my grandfather, knew what was coming; they were sent to an internment camp.
My great grandparents perished in the Hiroshima atomic bomb blast.

This is what my grandfather told me when I worked for him during the summer of 1966 ... "We are Americans. We should NEVER apologize for doing whatever is required to end a war."

Just my family's personal history and my opinion. Originally Posted by LucadeJure

good advice from your grandfather

Operation Downfall; Overlord was for the 6 June 1944, Normandy, D-Day.
Originally Posted by I B Hankering

I write corrected.

I think it was General Curtis LeMay who convinced the Allies that firebombing was the best way to demoralize a population responsible for the manufacture of the implements of war.

You didn't fuck with LeMay.

You didn't fuck with LeMay. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

he'd be considered a war criminal by todays standards

What is this? 20 questions?

I find the comment embarrassing because it suggests that simply because we are American, we must be superior to anyone and everyone else in the entire world. Get over yourselves already. Originally Posted by Doove

I do not feel that any American president should bow before a sovereign or religious leader. Our country is founded on the principle that there is no sovereign let alone a hereditary sovereign and separation of church and State. That said, if a private citizen wishes to bow or curtsey before a sovereign or a church official, that is completely up to the citizen. The president is different. He is the leader of this nation and by proxy the world. Personally, I would curtsey. I wouldn’t like it, but I would do it.

Secondly, who does Obama think he is? I have neither desire nor intention of apologizing for dropping the bombs. The war was logistically over, and everyone knew it. Beyond that I believe the idea of “don’t start nothing; won’t be nothing” pretty much applies here. Yamamoto said when he was being praised for his victory at Pearl Harbor, “I fear all we have done is waken a sleeping giant.” And he was right. We are the giant that not only ended the war, but more importantly we are the giant that ended imperialism. WWII was the precursor to the closing act called The Cold War that ended the atrocity of imperialism as a policy forever hopefully.

I believe the fire bombing of Japanese cities killed more people in WW2 than did the 2 hydrogen bombs. I guess Obama was saving that apology for another day. Originally Posted by doggie83

True, but they weren’t as devastating as one, gigantic shock to the system. And the whole point was to demoralize the civilian population to the point of giving up. The use of atomic weapons was inevitable. Personally, I have no problem with either act. An entire world was at war, and it was an all out war the likes of which never seen before and hopefully never to be seen again. The cost was grave in lives and collateral damage. It couldn’t be allowed to rage if we could end it easily. Germany was almost there with the bomb, and they would have dropped it on us.

But the main point is this, Obama is such an elitist that he assumes that because he thinks it, everyone else does also. He’s a prime example what I dislike most in liberals. They think that they are so intellectually superior (“They cling to their guns and religion.”), socially more deft and everyone else – but themselves – is closed minded. They are some of the most close-minded people on Earth they just cloak their myopic views better than the coocs at the other end of the spectrum.

So this post is about something that didnt happen? He didnt apologize after all did he?

As far as the bow that's cultural. The right and the left got it wrong. It's not unprecidented and its not culturally significant. Nixon did it, and Obama did it wrong. hands to side, bend the waist. you dont shake hands while you do it. He should have gotten better cultutral advice because he fucked it up.

So this post is about something that didnt happen? He didnt apologize after all did he?

As far as the bow that's cultural. The right and the left got it wrong. It's not unprecidented and its not culturally significant. Nixon did it, and Obama did it wrong. hands to side, bend the waist. you dont shake hands while you do it. He should have gotten better cultutral advice because he fucked it up. Originally Posted by budman33

My guess is he did get the right advice, he just ignored it because he's Obama or haven't you heard . It's similar to his wife hugging the Queen and not curtsying to her. They are elitists and above it all don't 'cha know.

The Far Right Wing-Nuts (Marshy, Whirly and gang) have wayyyyyyyy too much time on their hands. Instead of worrying whether the current Prez did or did not apologize and/or did or did not bow properly, why don't you go look for the freaking WMD's Dubya was unable to locate!

At least then you would be doing something worthwhile! To keep from being another of GW's statistics, be sure to learn how to duck!

As an aside, I would have told you to go find OBL but that has finally been taken care of!

I think it was General Curtis LeMay who convinced the Allies that firebombing was the best way to demoralize a population responsible for the manufacture of the implements of war. Originally Posted by Jackie S

A regular 20th century version of William Tecumseh Sherman. Interesting.

Instead of worrying whether the current Prez did or did not apologize and/or did or did not bow properly, why don't you go look for the freaking WMD's Dubya was unable to locate!

Ummmm.....bigmex, we did find WMD, we just didn't find stockpiles of WMD (with the exception of yellowcake)


July 16, 2009 10:51 AM
U.S. Secretly Takes Yellowcake From Iraq



(AP) The last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear program - a huge stockpile of concentrated natural uranium reached a Canadian port Saturday to complete a secret U.S. operation that included a two-week airlift from Baghdad and a ship voyage crossing two oceans.

The removal of 550 metric tons of "yellowcake" - the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment - was a significant step toward closing the books on Saddam's nuclear legacy. It also brought relief to U.S. and Iraqi authorities who had worried the cache would reach insurgents or smugglers crossing to Iran to aid its nuclear ambitions.

What is now left is the final and complicated push to clean up the remaining radioactive debris at the former Tuwaitha nuclear complex about 12 miles (19 kilometers) south of Baghdad - using teams that include Iraqi experts recently trained in the Chernobyl fallout zone in Ukraine.

"Everyone is very happy to have this safely out of Iraq," said a senior U.S. official who outlined the nearly three-month operation to The Associated Press. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject.

While yellowcake alone is not considered potent enough for a so-called "dirty bomb" - a conventional explosive that disperses radioactive material - it could stir widespread panic if incorporated in a blast. Yellowcake also can be enriched for use in reactors and, at higher levels, nuclear weapons using sophisticated equipment.

The Iraqi government sold the yellowcake to a Canadian uranium producer, Cameco Corp., in a transaction the official described as worth "tens of millions of dollars." A Cameco spokesman, Lyle Krahn, declined to discuss the price, but said the yellowcake will be processed at facilities in Ontario for use in energy-producing reactors.

"We are pleased ... that we have taken (the yellowcake) from a volatile region into a stable area to produce clean electricity," he said.

The deal culminated more than a year of intense diplomatic and military initiatives - kept hushed in fear of ambushes or attacks once the convoys were under way: first carrying 3,500 barrels by road to Baghdad, then on 37 military flights to the Indian Ocean atoll of Diego Garcia and finally aboard a U.S.-flagged ship for a 8,500-mile trip to Montreal.

And, in a symbolic way, the mission linked the current attempts to stabilize Iraq with some of the high-profile claims about Saddam's weapons capabilities in the buildup to the 2003 invasion.

Accusations that Saddam had tried to purchase more yellowcake from the African nation of Niger - and an article by a former U.S. ambassador refuting the claims - led to a wide-ranging probe into Washington leaks that reached high into the Bush administration.

Tuwaitha and an adjacent research facility were well known for decades as the centerpiece of Saddam's nuclear efforts.

Israeli warplanes bombed a reactor project at the site in 1981. Later, U.N. inspectors documented and safeguarded the yellowcake, which had been stored in aging drums and containers since before the 1991 Gulf War. There was no evidence of any yellowcake dating from after 1991, the official said.

U.S. and Iraqi forces have guarded the 23,000-acre (9,300-hectare) site - surrounded by huge sand berms - following a wave of looting after Saddam's fall that included villagers toting away yellowcake storage barrels for use as drinking water cisterns.

Yellowcake is obtained by using various solutions to leach out uranium from raw ore and can have a corn meal-like color and consistency. It poses no severe risk if stored and sealed properly. But exposure carries well-documented health concerns associated with heavy metals such as damage to internal organs, experts say.

"The big problem comes with any inhalation of any of the yellowcake dust," said Doug Brugge, a professor of public health issues at the Tufts University School of Medicine.

Moving the yellowcake faced numerous hurdles.

Diplomats and military leaders first weighed the idea of shipping the yellowcake overland to Kuwait's port on the Persian Gulf. Such a route, however, would pass through Iraq's Shiite heartland and within easy range of extremist factions, including some that Washington claims are aided by Iran. The ship also would need to clear the narrow Strait of Hormuz at the mouth of the Gulf, where U.S. and Iranian ships often come in close contact.

Kuwaiti authorities, too, were reluctant to open their borders to the shipment despite top-level lobbying from Washington.

An alternative plan took shape: shipping out the yellowcake on cargo planes.

But the yellowcake still needed a final destination. Iraqi government officials sought buyers on the commercial market, where uranium prices spiked at about $120 per pound last year. It's currently selling for about half that. The Cameco deal was reached earlier this year, the official said.

At that point, U.S.-led crews began removing the yellowcake from the Saddam-era containers - some leaking or weakened by corrosion - and reloading the material into about 3,500 secure barrels.

In April, truck convoys started moving the yellowcake from Tuwaitha to Baghdad's international airport, the official said. Then, for two weeks in May, it was ferried in 37 flights to Diego Garcia, a speck of British territory in the Indian Ocean where the U.S. military maintains a base.

On June 3, an American ship left the island for Montreal, said the official, who declined to give further details about the operation.

The yellowcake wasn't the only dangerous item removed from Tuwaitha.

Earlier this year, the military withdrew four devices for controlled radiation exposure from the former nuclear complex. The lead-enclosed irradiation units, used to decontaminate food and other items, contain elements of high radioactivity that could potentially be used in a weapon, according to the official. Their Ottawa-based manufacturer, MDS Nordion, took them back for free, the official said.

The yellowcake was the last major stockpile from Saddam's nuclear efforts, but years of final cleanup is ahead for Tuwaitha and other smaller sites.

The U.N.'s International Atomic Energy Agency plans to offer technical expertise.

Last month, a team of Iraqi nuclear experts completed training in the Ukrainian ghost town of Pripyat, which once housed the Chernobyl workers before the deadly meltdown in 1986, said an IAEA official who spoke on condition of anonymity because the decontamination plan has not yet been publicly announced.

But the job ahead is enormous, complicated by digging out radioactive "hot zones" entombed in concrete during Saddam's rule, said the IAEA official. Last year, an IAEA safety expert, Dennis Reisenweaver, predicted the cleanup could take "many years."

Ummmm.....bigmex, we did find WMD, we just didn't find stockpiles of WMD (with the exception of yellowcake)


July 16, 2009 10:51 AM
U.S. Secretly Takes Yellowcake From Iraq



(AP) The last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear program - a huge stockpile of concentrated natural uranium reached a Canadian port Saturday to complete a secret U.S. operation that included a two-week airlift from Baghdad and a ship voyage crossing two oceans.

The removal of 550 metric tons of "yellowcake" - the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment - was a significant step toward closing the books on Saddam's nuclear legacy. It also brought relief to U.S. and Iraqi authorities who had worried the cache would reach insurgents or smugglers crossing to Iran to aid its nuclear ambitions.

. . . .

Last month, a team of Iraqi nuclear experts completed training in the Ukrainian ghost town of Pripyat, which once housed the Chernobyl workers before the deadly meltdown in 1986, said an IAEA official who spoke on condition of anonymity because the decontamination plan has not yet been publicly announced.

But the job ahead is enormous, complicated by digging out radioactive "hot zones" entombed in concrete during Saddam's rule, said the IAEA official. Last year, an IAEA safety expert, Dennis Reisenweaver, predicted the cleanup could take "many years." Originally Posted by Marshall

In case Bigtex needs the source: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/05/world/main4235028.shtml

In case Bigtex needs the source: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n4235028.shtml Originally Posted by I B Hankering

I always say liberals don't read or study, but sometimes even I can't believe how liberals can be so ignorant and uninformed in this information society.....I realize that liberals are too busy feeling to think, but can't some of the facts sink in through osmosis? Are their skulls impermeable membranes?