Professor: Whites at Fault for all Black on Black Crime

Over the years I learned Viet Nam was no man's land, at least not for any of us. I think Kennedy realized that. Too bad LBJ didn't. But your service nor anyone else's was in vain. Jim Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

Kennedy inherited the presence and commitment. 20-20 hindsight is always better, but IMO the lesson is: one doesn't allow politicians and the media to run a war or even a street fight. Politicians authorize it, but the military should run it.

Dipshit, I was drafted. I did not believe in that fucked up expedition. I did not believe in the way it was conducted. I did not want to be there. I did not want America to be there.

My service was duty, not pride. And I am proud to say I did my duty when it would have been so much easier to "Trump" up a medical deferment or go to Canada.

I think there are a "few" others who might share my opinion of the VietNam war; especially those who served during that time.

I did my duty. Did you? Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Yes, I raised a great soldier, Tater Peeler

Dipshit, I was drafted. I did not believe in that fucked up expedition. I did not believe in the way it was conducted. I did not want to be there. I did not want America to be there.

My service was duty, not pride. And I am proud to say I did my duty when it would have been so much easier to "Trump" up a medical deferment or go to Canada.

I think there are a "few" others who might share my opinion of the VietNam war; especially those who served during that time.

I did my duty. Did you? Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Well stated. +1

Well stated. +1 Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

His attitude is consistent with a majority as the war continued into the Johnson administration, but in the early years Eisenhower to Kennedy there were people who believed it was a part of the resistance against the communist countries who were expanding their physical and political influence in the region.

Historically Ho Chi Minh was our ally in WWII against the Japanese just like the Chinese were. The Japanese, as well as the Chinese, understood the value of of "Indochina" and like other "strategic" places from China to the Middle East, e.g. Afghanistan the real estate was considered valuable and/or natural resources.

The war was not administered as a war and run by the military, it was a political effort run by politicians and influenced by the "liberal" media coverage. Just like Iraq from the beginning ... in Bush I. The North Koreans and former NV military who went to Baghdad in the ramp up to the Bush I (and Bush II) efforts were there to explain how to defeat the U.S.

His attitude is consistent with a majority as the war continued into the Johnson administration, but in the early years Eisenhower to Kennedy there were people who believed it was a part of the resistance against the communist countries who were expanding their physical and political influence in the region.

Historically Ho Chi Minh was our ally in WWII against the Japanese just like the Chinese were. The Japanese, as well as the Chinese, understood the value of of "Indochina" and like other "strategic" places from China to the Middle East, e.g. Afghanistan the real estate was considered valuable and/or natural resources.

The war was not administered as a war and run by the military, it was a political effort run by politicians and influenced by the "liberal" media coverage. Just like Iraq from the beginning ... in Bush I. The North Koreans and former NV military who went to Baghdad in the ramp up to the Bush I (and Bush II) efforts were there to explain how to defeat the U.S. Originally Posted by LexusLover

What years were you in Nam lexie?

What years were you in Nam lexie? Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Who wants to know?

His attitude is consistent with a majority as the war continued into the Johnson administration, but in the early years Eisenhower to Kennedy there were people who believed it was a part of the resistance against the communist countries who were expanding their physical and political influence in the region.

Historically Ho Chi Minh was our ally in WWII against the Japanese just like the Chinese were. The Japanese, as well as the Chinese, understood the value of of "Indochina" and like other "strategic" places from China to the Middle East, e.g. Afghanistan the real estate was considered valuable and/or natural resources.

The war was not administered as a war and run by the military, it was a political effort run by politicians and influenced by the "liberal" media coverage. Just like Iraq from the beginning ... in Bush I. The North Koreans and former NV military who went to Baghdad in the ramp up to the Bush I (and Bush II) efforts were there to explain how to defeat the U.S. Originally Posted by LexusLover

Excellent summary and I hope people can understand the nuance and the continuum of history.

It would be nice if you could stay on the same time-space continuum, JL/HK/DbD/BJ, etc.

Yes, I raised a great soldier, Tater Peeler


Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

What the fuck does that even mean, dildo? You did your duty by getting laid once ... If at all?

That you trained him/her? That you imbued him/her with his/her Daddy's acuity?

I feel SO much safer knowing that!

.... I hope people can understand the nuance and the continuum of history. Originally Posted by DSK

It's obviously apparent many on here don't. For a variety of reasons, I'm sure, but intertwined in the "reasoning" is the FACT they don't want to deal with the current realities and chose instead to attempt to rewrite history so they can "avoid" making the hard and painful decisions to avoid history repeating itself.

I was hoping that our excursions into Iraq and Afghanistan would create a different image of the U.S. from that generated from the retreat from S.E. Asia and that countries around the world would respect the U.S. rather than dismiss the U.S. as being gutless. But the gutless had to elect an unqualified person who prefers to wrap himself in a white flag while attempting to wrap his critics in a white sheet in an effort to silence them.

And his sheep on here are following suit ... like good little salesmen.

Who wants to know? Originally Posted by LexusLover

Just curious if all your knowledge was first hand, or if you read about it.

Just curious if all your knowledge was first hand, or if you read about it. Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Apparently, you believe that one must be standing knee deep in shit to realize the pond is a bunch of shit. On the other hand there are some "sanitation engineers" who can determine from the edge that it's shit, but for one reason or another they are tasked with wadding in to determine just how thick the crust is or how deep it is in the middle of the shit.

So what difference does it actually make to you whether I was observing from the "bank" or from the middle of the pond of shit? If it's any of your business, which it is not. The problem you apparently have is you have neither perspective.

Apparently, you believe that one must be standing knee deep in shit to realize the pond is a bunch of shit. On the other hand there are some "sanitation engineers" who can determine from the edge that it's shit, but for one reason or another they are tasked with wadding in to determine just how thick the crust is or how deep it is in the middle of the shit.

So what difference does it actually make to you whether I was observing from the "bank" or from the middle of the pond of shit? If it's any of your business, which it is not. The problem you apparently have is you have neither perspective. Originally Posted by LexusLover

Glad you admitted you are a shit engineer. Makes your posts clearer. Back to cleaning the pond.

Glad you admitted you are a shit engineer. Makes your posts clearer. Back to cleaning the pond. Originally Posted by i'va biggen

So how's that "trombone practice " and dingleberry picking going with YOUR hero woomby, Ekim / YOUR talk of shit brought YOUR and his fetishes to mind ! Make sure to pick enough dingleberries for Momma /SEEster woomby to make YOU a dingleberry pie tomorrow !

So how's that "trombone practice " and dingleberry picking going with YOUR hero woomby, Ekim / YOUR talk of shit brought YOUR and his fetishes to mind ! Make sure to pick enough dingleberries for Momma /SEEster woomby to make YOU a dingleberry pie tomorrow ! Originally Posted by Rey Lengua

What about the bet gay rey? You in or going to chicken shit out? Come on little faggot pretend like you got balls.