What's Obama's Plan to Save Medicare?

You have made it abundantly clear that is exactly your interpretation and position, so how is she off base? Originally Posted by I B Hankering

You caught that too I B? WTF is a compassionless Democrat who denigrates the Republicans for being compassionless. HILARIOUS!

You have made it abundantly clear that is exactly your interpretation and position, so how is she off base? Originally Posted by I B Hankering

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...a-death-panel/

Thank you for the acknowledgement. Think of me as your conscience.
Originally Posted by I B Hankering

You are confusing a conscience with a Lobotomy !

You have made it abundantly clear that is exactly your interpretation and position, so how is she off base? Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Let me explain something to you. If you ration food, do you call that a Death Panel? We do not give poor people unlimited food stamps.....does anyone call the Repub's that want to limit unemployment payments , Death Panels?

We all fucn die. Just because you do not take your kids college fund and spend it on grandma living an extra couple of weeks does not a Death Panel make.

If my conscience is no smarter than that I'd rather you be my asshole. It would be more appropriate with all the stupid shit you Sara Palin backers are a shoveling.

You caught that too I B? WTF is a compassionless Democrat who denigrates the Republicans for being compassionless. HILARIOUS! Originally Posted by gnadfly

No I denigrate people that think they are smart when they lie and say baseless stupid shit.

You and I.B. quit doing that and I'd change out your parrot cage and give you a fruit bowl to boot.

Whats a matter gnadfly, the medicare math to hard for you?

Average pay in 120k

Average take out 300k

60% at the very end of their life.

Those facts might make me compassionless but I'll take that over stupid any day.

Yes they would clobber Obama if he offered his leadership on the issue. But he can't, as you say, because he is so far left, if he articulated his policy he wouldn't be re-elected. So his lack of leadership is gaming the system for the sake of his reelection............. Originally Posted by Whirlaway

No what you and half the country do not get is the tthe American public wants to cut spending, except on shit that will affect their bottom line, such as Midicare.

Nobody can touch it. Obama tried with Obamacare. Where were you in 2009? Remember Death Panels? Ryan tried it with this stupid voucher system. Ditto, he is having the same problem Obama had.

So really wtf you are bitching about is both parties can not get the public to understand the problem, though that is not really wtf you are bitching about because you are one of the folks that does not understand the problem. You are bitching because Sean Hannity said you should. A damn fine reason if you have stock in Murdocks Fox News or more precise News Corp. but I doubt you have stock in that....

Do you always bitch about shit you know nothing about?

Simple, keep guys like you and the rest of the Republicans' Tea-vangelists' hands off of it.

Yes they would clobber Obama if he offered his leadership on the issue. But he can't, as you say, because he is so far left, if he articulated his policy he wouldn't be re-elected. So his lack of leadership is gaming the system for the sake of his reelection............. Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Actually, I think the opposite is true. He's too far to the right and would be clobbered by the Democrats. If Obama were to announce tomorrow that he wanted to abolish Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security, effective next week the Republicans would complain that it wasn't enough. Their object to anything that he does is tactical, not necessarily ideological.

But if Obama were to announce any plan with substantial savings on Medicaid and Medicare, the Democratic base and many Democratic office holders would attack him.

The bottom line is that the people do not yet understand the math on the problems with these two programs. And because of that, they do not yet understand that to have the programs continue in anything resembling their current form, one of two outcomes is inevitable -- you are going to have to have significantly higher taxes or you're going to have to have significant rationing of medical care to people other than the poor and the uninsured.

Until that realization hits enough people, the political will to solve this problems doesn't exist. Period.

What's Odumbo's plan for Medicare?.....Why take $500B out of it to fund Odumbocare......HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! How do the seniors like that....

He's too far to the right and would be clobbered by the Democrats. Originally Posted by TexTushHog

No, he's the communist-leftist you want him to be......you're just too dumb to realize that conservatism is MAINSTREAM and Odumbo has to take that into account and it impacts his words and actions.....

What's Odumbo's plan for Medicare?.....Why take $500B out of it to fund Odumbocare......HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! How do the seniors like that.... Originally Posted by Marshall

Doesn't it bother you that you don't know what you are talking about? Obviously not.
http://www.politifact.com/ohio/state...ut-500-billio/

Doesn't it bother you that you don't know what you are talking about? Obviously not.
http://www.politifact.com/ohio/state...ut-500-billio/ Originally Posted by Munchmasterman

"The $500 billion are reductions to future spending." A quote from your article.....so I was 100% correct! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

You gotta stop giving Barry BBBJTCCIMWS.........

No, he's the communist-leftist you want him to be......you're just too dumb to realize that conservatism is MAINSTREAM and Odumbo has to take that into account and it impacts his words and actions..... Originally Posted by Marshall

I can not help but wonder if Marshall and Whiraway are actually a tag team!

Just sayin'

"The $500 billion are reductions to future spending." A quote from your article.....so I was 100% correct! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! Originally Posted by Marshall

So what's he supposed to do? Propose that we cut previous spending? That just seems like a bit of a physics problem.

I can not help but wonder if Marshall and Whiraway are actually a tag team!

Just sayin' Originally Posted by bigtex

Tag team? I'm guessing that Marshall is a socially conservative libertarian too. If ya catch my drift.

If ya catch my drift. Originally Posted by Doofus

I think he caught it in the eye....next time, you boys should do CBJ......

Simple, keep guys like you and the rest of the Republicans' Tea-vangelists' hands off of it. Originally Posted by Randy4Candy

But it's ok for Odumbo to take $500B out.....HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! Were you aware that he did that? Are you ok with taking the pain medication rather than having the surgery?