Wall Street Easy Money

I'm not answering because Jack said it was off topic. Your numbers suck by the way

Besides, doing the ol' MSNBC-FOX news debate here will change exactly zero people's minds. Certainly I can't argue you one way, or you me the other.

But I will agree, the repubs have sucked in spending since Reagan.... but would counter their just buying votes and lining their pockets.... like damn near all of em do regardless of stripe. Washington needs an enema. Originally Posted by gaijin1969

If you are saying my numbers are inaccurate, refute them or I demand an apology and an admission that you are a blubbering fool.

If you are saying my numbers are inaccurate, refute them or I demand an apology and an admission that you are a blubbering fool. Originally Posted by drluv1

Absolutely not. You'll blame the entirety on "accounting for the war" anyways so it hardly matters. Consider me a blubbering fool if you like. Then we'll be even

I'm watching Fox News as I type. You'll probably say "that figures" but you ought to watch it some yourself. I bet you'd love Bill O'Reilly!

Hmmm. Doove must not be on now. I bet he'd back you up. But he could just be honoring Jack's request to keep his post on topic. Let's see....

Let's do another Sit In, or what was it called when all the PT smokers camped out in downtown Buffalo and Wall Street? Oh! The "Occupy" movement! Let's do that again.

I work in the hedge fund world.

I am managing to cope with my addiction...

Every industry has bad players, politicians, general contractors, providers, traders, PTA treasurers...

Few industries have had politicians compel them to further their agendas such as universal home ownership.

Few industries have government regulators that come to work everyday IN THEIR OFFICES.

If you don't enjoy what you do; or you don't make enough money, do something else.

In another related story, the 85 richest people in the world have as much total wealth as that of the poorest half of the entire earth's population (3.5 billion people) combined: Originally Posted by jackfengshui

enjoy your coming socialism u fool Originally Posted by Plastic Man

There's just not enough sarcasm in the world to do this one justice.

I'm not answering because Jack said it was off topic. Your numbers suck by the way

Besides, doing the ol' MSNBC-FOX news debate here will change exactly zero people's minds. Certainly I can't argue you one way, or you me the other.

But I will agree, the repubs have sucked in spending since Reagan.... but would counter their just buying votes and lining their pockets.... like damn near all of em do regardless of stripe. Washington needs an enema.
Originally Posted by gaijin1969

I remember this discussion from last year I believe. If it wasn't so sad it would be funny. If you are in the 1% or the other 99% we are all screwed. It's just the top range doesn't feel it as much. But they have children and grand children they care about who are in the middle class working hard and getting screwed. So in my very humble opinion that's why I believe as a nation we are all screwed.

The facts are both parties stink, they have too many outside interests that are full of greed and money and worrying about then next election.
Its always about the next election always
both parties are the problem

Drluv is correct, bush NEVER AND I MEAN NEVER PUT THE wars in the budget, never
you can go look that up but he never put the numbers in, Obama did.
both have been terrible leaders and spent too much money.

heres my solution:

Take all the money out of campaign reform, no spending AT ALL
FREE ELECTION EVERYONE CAN RUN AND YOU VOTE, NO MONEY, NO ADS, NOTHING
one open debate per election. all canditates welcome.

my solution on the tax, lower the tax rate to 15 percent, flat period no nothing no loopholes.
problem fixed.
the rich have too many loopholes, no one can dispute that, we pay 27 percent 28 percent some pay 25 many rich pay 12, 13 because of the hedge funds and their bs salary they say they make when they off shore money and don't claim it.
for our dear dear shitty health care employer system we have, kill it.
end it
put everyone on the open market and negotiate your insurance with a company and kill the state line bs make it country wide companies and cut that bs out.
cut the pharm companies out those greedy bastards
keep our 15 percent tax and let the govt balance the fucking budget fix the programs need fixed and contribute to the health care system cut programs that don't work, kill em cut em and welfare reform.

on we go
just a thought
will never happen, we all know why

my solution on the tax, lower the tax rate to 15 percent, flat period no nothing no loopholes.
problem fixed.
the rich have too many loopholes, no one can dispute that, we pay 27 percent 28 percent some pay 25 many rich pay 12, 13 because of the hedge funds and their bs Originally Posted by bjwstw

"Lower" the rate to 15 percent? Do yourself a favor, go back over your prior federal tax returns and figure out how much you actually pay.

If you're paying over 15%, you're doing something very wrong. That, or you're making a boatload of money. And if you're paying 27 or 28 percent, then you're just an idiot.

I thought the days of Easy Money on Wall Street were long gone with the 80's :-(

doove settle down im not just putting federal tax in that number
so chill brother

im counting social security and all the other bs taxes the govt takes out of our paychecks that we don't see.
theres a rate floating around of 15 percent that both parties are willing to talk about, without loopholes, ill try and find the article I read it last week.

To put the Wall Street salaries and bonuses in perspective, it might be helpful to remember that, thanks to the newly fattened minimum wage of $8.00 an hour in New York State (up from $7.25), someone working 40 hours a week at McDonald's now makes the princely sum of $16,640 a year.

I'd consider Ryan, Boehner and Mcconnell (and probably yourself) FAR bigger hypocrites Originally Posted by drluv1

I must have hit a nerve criticizing the wonderful Al Gore. Must be tough being a lib these days. The Obama administration hasn't exactly been stellar the past couple years. Actually it's been a joke. I'll agree with ya on those Rep's you mention. I left the Republican party after Bush so I don't have a dog in the fight.

To put the Wall Street salaries and bonuses in perspective, it might be helpful to remember that, thanks to the newly fattened minimum wage of $8.00 an hour in New York State (up from $7.25), someone working 40 hours a week at McDonald's now makes the princely sum of $16,640 a year. Originally Posted by jackfengshui

To further that perspective, the dudes at McDonald's make food. Wall St produces nothing.

I may be wrong AB, but their excesses didn't stop in the 80s. I believe after they dry anal raped society in 2008, Wall St has been having banner years, one after the next.

Any Dem vs. Rep argument is playing right into their hands, ignoring issues and replacing them with donkey vs elephant, which matters so little I am encouraging people not to vote. They're all pawns of the same machine.

To put the Wall Street salaries and bonuses in perspective, it might be helpful to remember that, thanks to the newly fattened minimum wage of $8.00 an hour in New York State (up from $7.25), someone working 40 hours a week at McDonald's now makes the princely sum of $16,640 a year. Originally Posted by jackfengshui

and? how much should fast food fry cook pay? 50k a year? no problem charge $25 per burger. or is the franchise owner not allowed to make profits even though they shoulder the risks?
fast food isnt a career its high school part time money saved for college or buying an iphone. if insane taxes and miserable burdens on business hadnt driven everything but mcdonalds and hoards of welfare cases out of ny there might be decent jobs even for those without brains to do more than sell junk at a best buy or flip burgers. the state turned into a libtard wet dream and everyone but the leaches left. shrinking population should say something. most "progressive" state there is but people who want to work are fleeing.
just because some are rich and some are poor does not equal inequality. people who have no education or no motivation and make poor choices like having kids without even a decent income then never teach their spawn about money will always be on the bottom rung. they are kept there by the statists who want them forever dumb to use them for votes by promising "equality" and stirring up the class warfare bullshit while they sit at the top living their lavish lives.
dont like what mcdonalds pays people? go start a business create wealth and employ people you can then pay as much as you like
or you think the state should redistribute all the dirty money those dirty rich folks are hoarding? sounds real american for sure.

To further that perspective, the dudes at McDonald's make food. Wall St produces nothing. Originally Posted by JohnnyCap

right, america is still the worlds financial superpower because of fast food workers.