Pretty much, I think what you said is right. It was a rant, but it wasn't "a straight forward vent" to describe how "I'd wish you'd stop & let me get on with my business". Nope, not at all. Essentially, that
IS a part of my "business".. & I do not necessarily have a "menu". Whatever happens, is just the way it happens. There's no methodical approach to this.. I do what feels good.
But anyway, it had to do with the reply given in a previous thread I'd tapped into. She said, men could make up for what they lacked, by daty & it has nothing to do with size. - Now, I've found in my case (personal & play) that is not
always the case & instead of voicing that opinion in that thread, I did so in my own.
I don't dislike DATY.. I don't dislike it at all. It's one of the highest forms of entertainment, pleasure, & euphoria, in my opinion. & I have a gf who rocks my socks everyday & during p4p. But, when in referenced to what SubCilla said, in my op, with a man (& this is probably only bc I'm in a relationship with a woman) there is no better pleasure to be than to orgasm from penetration. This is partially bc
some men are incapable of licking & swirling on the right parts & the rest is because, I just enjoy the
hardware.
Therefore, from my standpoint, a man quite possibly
could make up for his lack of the aforementioned by taking a trip downtown.. especially, if he's willing to take directions.
(Which I stated, 9/10 they aren't really interested or don't voice it, if they are.)
There's no request for tips or insight. You clearly state in plain English that most men, even those that think they do it well, don't do it well because providers/women fake their own response to get them to hurry up and finish.
Originally Posted by Carl
I didn't say they'd do this to get you to hurry up & finish. I simply stated that they'd fake an orgasm or wouldn't initially volunteer information to tell you how to fix it. Some women don't want to taint a man's pride.. some don't care enough.. & others, like myself, will try to give direction. Also, I didn't request for tips or insight because.. I don't need any tips. I know how to eat a peach. It's not something I can give direction into doing online, over a computer, which is why later when that came up, I said - "I'll go back to doing Teach Me Dates with couples."
Your post never asks men to share their tips or techniques, presumably because most men that think they are cunning linguists are laboring under a delusion created by women/providers they have seen. So how do guys then know for sure that they're doing it well? You seem to be claiming in a later post the territory of the expert but don't seem to be forthcoming about sharing what you know because you say that the information is available everywhere already.
Originally Posted by Carl
Presumably, you would be wrong. I didn't & didn't have to ask for the men to share their techniques. They did so on their own, which, I figured they would, because, I did say "they didn't know what they were doing" & that I was "waiting for the objections". I got both. & these guys know that they're doing it well, bc they've gotten different responses from different women who don't know each other (& while I said woman fake it, I didn't say all women) & they completely changed my thoughts when some of them said, women HAD given them direction.
Also, I was responding to what WorknMan said about "they don't teach guys how to eat pussy in high school. There are no government pamphlets on the art of dining at the Y. And as far as I know, there's no classes that a guy can enroll in to hone his craft." when I said there were other outlets. As I said before, I can't teach, tell, or show you how to do anything over a keyboard, through a computer screen. But, I did try to give a little insight with this.
(i.e. the left side is the most sensitive side of the clitoris - for most women, small flicks up/down & in small circles right under the clitoris bulb, is pleasurable for most, as well.)
Originally Posted by DianaDeepthroats
But, I'll say again, in my case, if you don't know what you're doing & aren't willing to ask or make it seem like you willing to learn, I'd rather orgasm through penile insertion (excuse my language). - again, this is my response to the quote.
Which is what my first post was to begin with.