No, there is no negotiating.

There should be no negotiation ... Originally Posted by TabithaBash

"Should" is a dangerous word, particularly in the hobby. Many folks (and many laws) say there should be no whoring, and yet here we are. How do you reconcile that?

How about you do you and not instruct me how I should go about buying pussy?

Potential clients who negotiate with providers if it is the case that a particular provider has not articulated that she is open to negotiating are tactless in my opinion. Notes on etiquette offered by many providers suggest to not engage in conversations about money at all. There are dozens of reasons why it's not the best idea. One is it's a LE move. Even if someone is not a copper and is a legitimate client, I've found that those who haggle are problematic in other ways. They are usually the folks who are inclined to make unreasonable demands on a provider's time, before, during, and/or after a date. And I've also found that this type of client may also be prone to pushing boundaries and coerciveness in other regards.

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"Should" is a dangerous word, particularly in the hobby. Many folks (and many laws) say there should be no whoring, and yet here we are. How do you reconcile that?

How about you do you and not instruct me how I should go about buying pussy? Originally Posted by JohnnyYanks

And how about you respect the women who don't want sell their pussy to hagglers? If you want to haggle don't bother those who say no negotiating. That's fair, right?

And what does the illegality of prostitution have to do with how people engage in it? Are you saying there are no rules or norms because it is illegal?

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And how about you respect the women who don't want sell their pussy to hagglers? If you want to haggle don't bother those who say no negotiating. That's fair, right?

And what does the illegality of prostitution have to do with how people engage in it? Are you saying there are no rules or norms because it is illegal? Originally Posted by awl4knot

All levels Prostitutes sell pu$$y whatever price.Clients paying prostitutes to leave without strings

I think what JohnnyYanks is saying, is don't be a hypocrite. A prostitute shouls not tell others how the SHOULD act, negotiate or not negotiate, when the prostitute does not listen to what Laws have told her she SHOULD not do, be a whore. That's my read on it. And only in this business have I seen so many workers tell their customers how to act. When I spend my hard earned money, I act any way I decide to because if this whore does not like my behavior another will. I don't negotiate but I also don't tell other people how they should or should not act.

It is funny to me how some desperate, pathetic men on here so easily come to the rescue of women that do not give a shit about them. It is a business to her, a way to make tons of money and she makes more than you do. But you feel sorry for her, lmfao! I don't feel sorry for my mechanic when he complains that I don't want to participate in his upsell, lmao! So, keep posting dudes and keep me entertained!

Without taint photos there is nothing to negotiate.

... Are you saying there are no rules or norms because it is illegal? Originally Posted by awl4knot

I said no such thing.

I'm pretty tired of hagglers. I offer more than most and still they try and talk me down!

Kinda funny though that they can spend double on somebody that does a quarter of what I do then cry on the boards about how she wasn't worth the money!

Awe, cry me a river!

I said no such thing. Originally Posted by JohnnyYanks

I didn't think so but someone else did. He seems to think ladies have no right to set prices, limits and rules because prostitution is illegal, but men are not so similarly bound. Nonsense and nonsensical.

But then I missed the point of your analogy. Maybe you can explain it to me?

There should be no negotiation. It really shouldn't even come up. If I want to offer a special it's usually for military or people who have done something with their lives. Sorry I wont cheapen myself for you! Originally Posted by TabithaBash

$200 per hour? I'd happily pay that to you. Fuck yes, for several hours. The passage below is not directed at you in any way, Tabitha.

On the general subject of negotiating, there is so much to it that absolutes are just hard to stick to in an open market. Everything is a negotiation, even in reverse. If I agree to pay someone's rate and a reasonable person would expect a certain attitude and delivery of goods as advertised, and the provider gets in my face and sez "fork it all over old man, I don't negotiate", well she is still negotiating, just totally on her terms. She is trying to get me to pay too much for too little!

Now, if she means she will do a good job for the advertised rate, so let's not talk about it after you have reserved my time, then yes, it is callous to negotiate with that unfair advantage. However, if things get slow, and she likes me, and we have had many good sessions, and she calls me up asking me to come over, she is then negotiating from a weakness she has created. Sensing that, I may simply act slightly uninterested, then she will likely drop her price to salvage something, and I will hop on it.

In reality, the way you act in a previous session determines the next session, and is a full blown audition. If I don't call a provider back, that is my negotiation - I paid your price, you weren't worth it, I'm moving on to a new experience.

All of life is a negotiation, and it depends on supply and demand, circumstances, attractiveness, politics, personality, etc.

If you refuse to negotiate in life, you will end up in a roomful of cats, all alone.

My advise to any provider who doesn't like to negotiate is to learn to do it gracefully, and you can usually get your way.

Motherfuckers are always trying to get my price down on my cakes. I point out I'm always on time, use the best ingredients, deliver it fresh, and give them a sample. They like the sample, they pay the price, or I move on to the next customer. It isn't rude that they try to negotiate, but they may be shitty at it, and lose out on my magnificent cakes!!

They might just be too stupid to know any better.

Totally agree. Negotiating is not in the definition of being a provider. If she is open to negotiating great. If not great. The only thing she is required to do is make your time together memorable.

What does a typical "haggling" conversation look like. First date and first contact does that happen?--I guess I can see the frustration but a comeback of "I don't negotiate because I'm better) most guys have had better 150 visits then 300 visits, I know I have, what I hate the most is some experienced girl telling me how to fuck and when to cum

Sometimes when I'm looking and may not be as rich as other times I will first find out if she's available and then I might ask if I could be accompanied for 200--is that offensive? Look at it like this 1st visit I paid 300 and I have 200 now--that's 500 dollars

What does a typical "haggling" conversation look like. First date and first contact does that happen?--I guess I can see the frustration but a comeback of "I don't negotiate because I'm better) most guys have had better 150 visits then 300 visits, I know I have, what I hate the most is some experienced girl telling me how to fuck and when to cum

Sometimes when I'm looking and may not be as rich as other times I will first find out if she's available and then I might ask if I could be accompanied for 200--is that offensive? Look at it like this 1st visit I paid 300 and I have 200 now--that's 500 dollars Originally Posted by The Grey Monster

Stream of conscious blither. Don't you get it? They don't want your stinking $200; they want their stated rate. If they accept less they feel used, and they know guys will brag how they paid less, so they will tell you to stuff it (generally). So yes, it is offensive them and since they got the pussy they set the rules.

And before I forget, telling them you had better pussy for less is not how you want to negotiate because they will say with absolute accuracy they had way better dick than yours. Mongers need to be humble.

Stream of conscious blither. Don't you get it? They don't want your stinking $200; they want their stated rate. If they accept less they feel used, and they know guys will brag how they paid less, so they will tell you to stuff it (generally). So yes, it is offensive them and since they got the pussy they set the rules.

And before I forget, telling them you had better pussy for less is not how you want to negotiate because they will say with absolute accuracy they had way better dick than yours. Mongers need to be humble. Originally Posted by awl4knot

I recognize your experience and appreciate the candid feed back,,,but are you just kinda being sarcastic?

I am imagining a much different conversation that would trigger a girl to call out to an open forum in disgust of an offer for less money.

I've had cheaper that was more enjoyable and I've had expensive that yielded a sexy hard body girl---but had rules and more rules and thinking back that's all I remember is the rules.

I guess I would try to negotiate a deal with the expensive hard body in an attempt to recreate with her what the cheaper girl delivers---just thinking I should get both for a higher rate.

For example,,does she French kiss you and drop to her knees or is she expecting you to attempt to French kiss her and you drop to your knees.

If the latter then she may should find another career.