Anyone else kinda feeling like they're DONE?

HA so many of these comments and attitude and judgement is EXACTLY why you folks are here :-) Stick to the established ladies who have been around and you'll be just fine. Can't afford her, then don't see her? But all of THIS, laughable to say the least.

Guess you're not allowed to be judgmental on shitty service anymore.

HA so many of these comments and attitude and judgement is EXACTLY why you folks are here :-) Stick to the established ladies who have been around and you'll be just fine. Can't afford her, then don't see her? But all of THIS, laughable to say the least. Originally Posted by SexySammy

Why exactly is it "laughable" that some guys can't afford to hobby like they used to? Some of these "established ladies" that you have mentioned have increased their prices from $300 to $500......some guys can only afford to hobby once per month and the girls he's been seeing regularly have almost doubled in price. Guys like seeing regulars for a lot of reasons, so it's not as easy or convenient as you think to find a new regular....especially when prices are through the roof.

So I'm not really sure what is "laughable"....but maybe there are specific posts you're referring to that I missed?

HA so many of these comments and attitude and judgement is EXACTLY why you folks are here :-) Stick to the established ladies who have been around and you'll be just fine. Can't afford her, then don't see her? But all of THIS, laughable to say the least. Originally Posted by SexySammy

This is why I see sugar babies. The providers hate the men on these sites. It's your right. But it's why guys are looking for alternatives.

Why exactly is it "laughable" that some guys can't afford to hobby like they used to? Some of these "established ladies" that you have mentioned have increased their prices from $300 to $500......some guys can only afford to hobby once per month and the girls he's been seeing regularly have almost doubled in price. Guys like seeing regulars for a lot of reasons, so it's not as easy or convenient as you think to find a new regular....especially when prices are through the roof.

So I'm not really sure what is "laughable"....but maybe there are specific posts you're referring to that I missed? Originally Posted by AspenCalifornia

Definitely directed more towards some of the other comments because trust me I totally get that aspect. Hence why my prices have been fairly the same for last 10 years. I like my working class regular crowd vs the quick buck anyway. But that's still the right every lady has just like any business. But grouping everyone and judging us as a whole over the few bad apples? Not ok.

Hobby has changed a lot. A lotta women seem to be off these kind of sites and on Tryst, Twitter, etc..... These sites are just for men mostly, in my opinion. They just get on here and chat (complain) about the ladies.

These sites are just for men mostly, in my opinion. They just get on here and chat (complain) about the ladies. Originally Posted by petitefunlady

Nailed It!

I recall a time where you were rewarded for ignoring the drama, BS and other stuff because there was also some helpful info.....helpful to the providers and hobbyists. Just sayin'.......

This thread has many wonderful and interesting comments from many people. I just want to remind everyone that we're in the Coed forum and your posts are viewable by the ladies too.

That said, completely agreed on the assessment that hobbying is much more difficult than it was before, in terms of increased rates, draconian law and antifreedom LE scrutiny, and generally worse treatment of clients due to painful screening with real IDs and whatnot, which itself is also an effect of LE activity.

The increased rates can be easily explained by the inflationary economy we're all facing across the nation, not just this Dallas area. Fellow hobbyists in other areas have reported the same.

To me, the bulk of the hardship comes from Texas government deciding to place harsh penalty on citizens exercising their freedom in private with full consent. This also led to increased LE scrutiny and increased screenings to the point of distopia. The higher methods establishments now have to do to ensure their safety as well as yours obviously lead to higher costs and rates. It's just economics 101.

The unscrupulous politicians are not fooling anyone by saying it's to fight human trafficking. No shit, I dislike human trafficking too, but if you also include in the mix willing ladies providing a service to consensual clients, now it's just bullshit and caters to a specific demographic of society. You know, the antifreedom group. I know you keep complaining about the law, but how many of you actually do something to fight it? Have you ever called your representative even once? Just put up your phone and say you don't want your tax money to go towards costly activities that don't contribute anything to society. Say you want pro-freedom Texas back. Say it should be completely legal for a person to get a massage without being stopped and questioned by police arbitrarily. If willing, just say that you want legalized prostitution because that protects women better (and it also protects you). Donate to organizations that advocate for safe and legal environment for working women. You happily pay for $300+ for an hour, you can donate $10. I've done all of the aforementioned. Join up. Exercise your rights. Don't like the system? Change the system.

I've seen the word simp being thrown around like a basketball in this thread. I too agree that there should be some price control to prevent costs from shooting up uncontrollably and curb the renowned GPS. However, I can't agree that simply treating your lady with respect automatically equates to simping. You also can't keep demanding your fellow hobbyists not to spend their own money on the amount they feel best suits their situation. It's their money, not yours. We're not in a communist state. To be clear, I personally try to adhere to the "market price" perceived and generally accepted by our community. I think it's good practice. But I also tip a little higher sometimes for exceptional service provided by the lady. This encourages good behaviors and the good behaviors from the ladies I met will also benefit you.

Ridiculing and criticizing your fellow hobbyists for spending a little higher on the ladies is also not going to change the market price. Why? Because first, they're not going to change just because you shout and cry provocatively. And second, even if they change and lower their spending a little, it's not going to do shit in macroeconomics. Each lady can see more than ten clients a day and North Texas alone bears thousands upon thousands visits every day. Time that by the weeks and months and we easily arrive at hundreds of thousands, and it's laughably clear a few guys lowering their tips in several sessions are not going to do jack. It's the free market, and the invisible hand is more powerful than many of you think. It's just economics. What we need is a systemic change.

The solution for us individual hobbyists? Just cut back on spending during chaotic waters and hobby more again when things are good again. It's been waves after waves for decades here and it's not going to change. Like the old adage, it's better to spend $100 on a good shirt than $25 for four poor quality ones. I've found many times over that saving for $500 to spend a mindblowing time with your favorite reputable lady is 10 times better than cheapening it and going for two subpar $250 sessions, for an inferior experience each time. For an example.

Good things come to those who wait. Or colloquially, wait and you will come better. LOL

I don't get it. Everyone who spends money gripes. Yelp. Hotel reviews. Everywhere. But if you gripe in the hobby the ladies want you banned. If it's a business, you listen to the customers and say "you're right" even when the customer is wrong. But on oh2, if have any criticism you get banned. Are there trolls? Yes. There are trolls on the fucking Arbys twitter page too. But ladies in dfw are ignoring a serious trend. There's lots of talented sugar babies out there who aren't asking for 600 and not allowing guys to blow off steam on the internet.

I pooped my pants, looking for a hooker to clean it up

This thread has many wonderful and interesting comments from many people. I just want to remind everyone that we're in the Coed forum and your posts are viewable by the ladies too.

That said, completely agreed on the assessment that hobbying is much more difficult than it was before, in terms of increased rates, draconian law and antifreedom LE scrutiny, and generally worse treatment of clients due to painful screening with real IDs and whatnot, which itself is also an effect of LE activity.

The increased rates can be easily explained by the inflationary economy we're all facing across the nation, not just this Dallas area. Fellow hobbyists in other areas have reported the same.

To me, the bulk of the hardship comes from Texas government deciding to place harsh penalty on citizens exercising their freedom in private with full consent. This also led to increased LE scrutiny and increased screenings to the point of distopia. The higher methods establishments now have to do to ensure their safety as well as yours obviously lead to higher costs and rates. It's just economics 101.

The unscrupulous politicians are not fooling anyone by saying it's to fight human trafficking. No shit, I dislike human trafficking too, but if you also include in the mix willing ladies providing a service to consensual clients, now it's just bullshit and caters to a specific demographic of society. You know, the antifreedom group. I know you keep complaining about the law, but how many of you actually do something to fight it? Have you ever called your representative even once? Just put up your phone and say you don't want your tax money to go towards costly activities that don't contribute anything to society. Say you want pro-freedom Texas back. Say it should be completely legal for a person to get a massage without being stopped and questioned by police arbitrarily. If willing, just say that you want legalized prostitution because that protects women better (and it also protects you). Donate to organizations that advocate for safe and legal environment for working women. You happily pay for $300+ for an hour, you can donate $10. I've done all of the aforementioned. Join up. Exercise your rights. Don't like the system? Change the system.

I've seen the word simp being thrown around like a basketball in this thread. I too agree that there should be some price control to prevent costs from shooting up uncontrollably and curb the renowned GPS. However, I can't agree that simply treating your lady with respect automatically equates to simping. You also can't keep demanding your fellow hobbyists not to spend their own money on the amount they feel best suits their situation. It's their money, not yours. We're not in a communist state. To be clear, I personally try to adhere to the "market price" perceived and generally accepted by our community. I think it's good practice. But I also tip a little higher sometimes for exceptional service provided by the lady. This encourages good behaviors and the good behaviors from the ladies I met will also benefit you.

Ridiculing and criticizing your fellow hobbyists for spending a little higher on the ladies is also not going to change the market price. Why? Because first, they're not going to change just because you shout and cry provocatively. And second, even if they change and lower their spending a little, it's not going to do shit in macroeconomics. Each lady can see more than ten clients a day and North Texas alone bears thousands upon thousands visits every day. Time that by the weeks and months and we easily arrive at hundreds of thousands, and it's laughably clear a few guys lowering their tips in several sessions are not going to do jack. It's the free market, and the invisible hand is more powerful than many of you think. It's just economics. What we need is a systemic change.

The solution for us individual hobbyists? Just cut back on spending during chaotic waters and hobby more again when things are good again. It's been waves after waves for decades here and it's not going to change. Like the old adage, it's better to spend $100 on a good shirt than $25 for four poor quality ones. I've found many times over that saving for $500 to spend a mindblowing time with your favorite reputable lady is 10 times better than cheapening it and going for two subpar $250 sessions, for an inferior experience each time. For an example.

Good things come to those who wait. Or colloquially, wait and you will come better. LOL Originally Posted by Boy Scout

Inflation definitely plays a big role here and folks seem to forget that at its core, this is a business at the end of the day. Milk doesn't cost .5 cents anymore either. I'm sure you can still find someone walking around for a quick buck in some places as well.
Private incalls and hotel prices have both risen. Which means our out of pocket expenses have risen as well. In multiple aspects at that. I certainly don't judge all hobbyist as a whole. Some folks just like to spend more and that's on them. I have plenty of folks that have tipped extremely well just because that's how they are.
There are so many sites I don't know why folks are that bothered they got banned from oh2 anyways. And they go and make multiple handles to get on the same site they talk the most shit about lol

This is why I see sugar babies. The providers hate the men on these sites. It's your right. But it's why guys are looking for alternatives. Originally Posted by Anthonylewis50

I also strictly see sugar babies these days. The majority of the girls on there are not jaded and aren’t supporting Tyrone. You will have to spend some time weeding out the scammers and professionals, but it’s really not that hard and I think it’s sorta fun. You will definitely meet a wider spectrum women than you meet on OH2 or eccie.

Whenever I hear it's inflation, All I picture is a lazy hooker wanting to make a killing while watching a Netflix marathon waiting for the few sorry tricks getting soaked with their "inflation" rates. I know I'm right and some will get bothered with my post

What makes me happy is guys finding other options, taking their $ elsewhere and less for the money hungry greedy hookers, hopefully more guys learn how to hunt in other places. Things were different 5 years ago.

I don't get it. Everyone who spends money gripes. Yelp. Hotel reviews. Everywhere. But if you gripe in the hobby the ladies want you banned. If it's a business, you listen to the customers and say "you're right" even when the customer is wrong. But on oh2, if have any criticism you get banned. Are there trolls? Yes. There are trolls on the fucking Arbys twitter page too. But ladies in dfw are ignoring a serious trend. There's lots of talented sugar babies out there who aren't asking for 600 and not allowing guys to blow off steam on the internet. Originally Posted by Anthonylewis50

The customer is NOT always right. Have you ever worked in service industry? More-so in the last 10 years? People these days are so RUDE and they are not always right. Demeaning the ladies and grouping us altogether based on a person's miniscule experience with a few ladies, is a completely different thing. The amount of providers and hobbying going on all over the world, hell Texas alone is astounding I can promise you that. And not everyone acts and does the things some of these gentlemen have used in their arguments, I don't keep up with reading all reviews all the time but I've heard my fair share of horror stories about experiences with other ladies but more times than not, if you do your research, don't treat the provider like dirt or constantly degrade them online as a whole, there are more good experiences vs the bad. Not everyone is going to have the same experience either because not all men act the same. And believe me I'm all for the private areas for alerts to be made on both sides of things as well. I can promise you the men would be more upset than the ladies if the private areas got shut down though and everything was public and people could actually defend themselves. Then there are discussions started like this that remind me why we have those areas. I honestly don't typically get wrapped up in the coed drama that happens and folks start going back and forth but some of these comments honestly shocked me.