Three Reasons Trump's Impeachment Wouldn't Sink Stocks

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. Originally Posted by I B Hankering
Then CNN double down on their story you would think the owners would put a stop to it
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Then CNN double down on their story you would think the owners would put a stop to it Originally Posted by Hotrod511
Remember one of the final scenes in the movie "Moby Dick" where Captain Ahab is tied to the whale as it plunges into the depths? That's CNN. They mean to go down with the "Russia! Russia! Russia!" story like Ahab went down with the whale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLTlfljynV4
It is only fake news until they have something the right agrees with. Originally Posted by bamscram
Let he among us who is without sin cast the first stone.
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Let he among us who is without sin cast the first stone. Originally Posted by friendly fred





That will be the day in this forum.
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Let he among us who is without multiple handles cast the first stone. Originally Posted by friendly fred
Does that work better for you, i'va biggen... er, I mean bamscram?
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Remember one of the final scenes in the movie "Moby Dick" where Captain Ahab is tied to the whale as it plunges into the depths? That's CNN. They mean to go down with the "Russia! Russia! Russia!" story like Ahab went down with the whale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLTlfljynV4 Originally Posted by I B Hankering

I agree
Maybe they just wanted him out of the house. Originally Posted by bamscram
I can't understand a parent who would want a kid out of their house and into a war.

Of course, I love all my kids and grand kids, not everyone does.
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Does that work better for you, i'va biggen... er, I mean bamscram? Originally Posted by lustylad




Wonder who ties your shoes for you?
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I can't understand a parent who would want a kid out of their house and into a war.

Of course, I love all my kids and grand kids, not everyone does. Originally Posted by friendly fred
bam he is one of the one's who don't but I would be willing to bet he has none hell just look at the number of posts he's made since switching from I'va biggen to bamscram how would he have had time for anything other than posting in eccie political forum

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bam he is one of the one's who don't but I would be willing to bet he has none hell just look at the number of posts he's made since switching from I'va biggen to bamscram how would he have had time for anything other than posting in eccie political forum

Originally Posted by Hotrod511



How many did you have under your old handle? Curious minds want to know, now don't deny you had one.
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Enemy of the People.

That donkey dick in the White House tweeted that out again today. That is before he cancelled a scheduled pay raise for federal employees and I’d he was pulling US funding for UN refugee aid program.

I guess if the day was the “Let’s see who can be the biggest dick” contest, he won.

Jesus!

Holy chit.
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Enemy of the People.

That donkey dick in the White House tweeted that out again today. That is before he cancelled a scheduled pay raise for federal employees and I’d he was pulling US funding for UN refugee aid program.

I guess if the day was the “Let’s see who can be the biggest dick” contest, he won.

Jesus!

Holy chit. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Enemy of the People.

That donkey cunt who lost the White House sold out America when she allowed Uranium One Deal. That is after she took a scheduled payoff for speaking fees and took millions in funding for her illegal foundation that doesn't exist now.

I guess if the day was the “Let’s see who can be the biggest CUNT” contest, she won.

Jesus!

Holy chit.
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That donkey dick in the White House... cancelled a scheduled pay raise for federal employees... Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Odumbo froze federal pay for 3 years, from 2010-2013. Was he a donkey dick too?
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Wonder who shines your shoes for you? Originally Posted by bamscram
My boy bamscram. AKA I'va biggen/ekim.
If you saw his performance on Fox and Friends, then you've got to be a little uncomfortable with his misguided and bellicose warning to the American people.

Unless there's a sudden steep drop in the BULLSHIT sector, that is.

I'll take my chances with the consequences. Trump needs to GO!

January 2019 can't come fast enough.

https://money.usnews.com/investing/s...nt-sink-stocks

3 Reasons Trump's Impeachment Wouldn't Sink Stocks
Trump wants to convince Americans that anything against Trump's interests are against their own.

By John Divine, Staff Writer |Aug. 24, 2018, at 11:31 a.m.



President Donald Trump is a master showman. In his prior life as real estate developer and reality TV star, you couldn't go a day without seeing his name in the tabloids. But taking full credit for the creation of wealth in America – and the ability of the stock market to function smoothly – is a bit gone too far.

But the president – in a "Fox & Friends" interview conducted right after his former lawyer Michael Cohen implicated Trump in criminal campaign finance violations – felt a need to convince the American people how terrible a world without him calling the shots would be.

"If I ever got impeached, I think the market would crash. I think everybody would be very poor, because without this thinking," Trump said, pointing to his own head, "you would see, you would see numbers that you wouldn't believe in reverse."

Does this make sense? Not really, for a few reasons.


Finance 101: Stocks follow profits. In the long term, stock prices track quite nicely with corporate profits. They rise together, they fall together. This is Finance 101.

"With a very strong earnings season and corporate profits enjoying the fruits of a recovery that's gained momentum over the past five years or so, this type of news is not directly affecting the reality of strong earnings," says Steve Frazier, investment manager at Wakefield, Rhode Island-based Frazier Investment Management. "Real news of underlying fundamentals like borrowing costs, earnings growth, and GDP will continue to move markets as we've seen over this past economic cycle."

Despite his self-promotion, Donald Trump lacks the ability to think additional corporate profits into existence.

To be clear, the stock market gyrates for other reasons, too, and the political division and uncertainty created by a Trump impeachment likely wouldn't inspire a flurry of buying.

Still – would the economy screech to a halt without Trump in the White House?

Trump dumped? Thence, Pence. Trump's comments reveal a low opinion of his handpicked vice president, Mike Pence. But you can be sure that the institutions and individuals controlling trillions of dollars in capital on Wall Street, however, would devote a touch more thought toward the vice president.

"I doubt an impeachment would move things much at all since Pence is unlikely to change anything that Trump did," says Rob Baumann, chair of the economics department at College of the Holy Cross.

In fact, when considering the impact of a President Pence on the stock market, some think he'd be an outright bullish catalyst.

"His elevation to the Oval Office could lift a heavy burden from the stock market: CEOs' expectations of lower profitability due to Trump's trade war," says Peter Cohan, lecturer of strategy at Babson College.

Cohan notes that after an impressive second-quarter earnings season in which the vast majority of public companies beat earnings per share expectations, management teams across America are tamping down expectations for next quarter.

"Seventy-four percent of companies tracked by FactSet lowered their guidance for third quarter EPS," Cohan says. Many companies explicitly blamed tariffs and the resultant trade wars for the dreary outlooks.


"Were a President Pence to eliminate Trump's tariffs and end his trade war, the burden they place on company earnings expectations would be lifted," Cohan says. "And stocks would soar."

Tax cuts, regulatory rollbacks have already happened. The two major catalysts for the stock market under Trump have been the 2017 tax cuts – which have no clause invalidating them if Trump goes down in flames – and a series of regulatory rollbacks.

In other words, from Wall Street's perspective, there's a sense in which Trump has already served his purpose. The low-hanging fruit is gone. There are no more easy levers to pull.

Trump views his potential impeachment as a tragic loss for America. But tax cuts and regulatory rollbacks don't go away with Trump.

On the other hand, a number of things could go away with Trump: the trade war, escalating tensions with longtime allies, buddy-buddy relationships with Vladimir Putin and other dictators and daily Twitter rants that that rail against companies, political foes and other countries, both friend and foe..

Here's the reality check. The Dow Jones industrial average has risen from 19,000 to 25,000 since Trump's election despite his antics, not because of them.

The notion that Trump thought the Dow up over 6,000 points is patently ridiculous.

Wall Street would not crumble if the president of the United States failed to pump lead into his own Oxfords on a daily basis. Corporate America won't self-destruct if the phrases "witch hunt" and "fake news" aren't tossed around as liberally as championship confetti.

The menacing conclusion of Trump's frail syllogism – that "everybody would be very poor" if he were impeached, due to the epic and preordained market plunge – is also hyperbolic, false and revealing.

Only 54 percent of Americans own stocks in any form, with the top decile of Americans owning 84 percent of all equities. A staggering percentage of baby boomers don't think they'll have enough money to retire comfortably.

As the heat really starts to turn up on Trump, the president is using one of his favorite tactics, fear, to persuade the American people that anything against Trump's interests are against their own.

Hundreds of millions of Americans won't be sent to the poorhouse by a stock market decline – they don't own stocks to begin with. Yet even when Trump tries appealing to the people with a vain, cynical and self-serving argument, he reveals how out-of-touch he truly is with real people. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Trump is perfectly fine where he's at. Just because he's a an out spoken racist bastard doesn't mean he has to be impeached. Besides he's not the first politician of this type. Remember LBJ, George Wallace just to name few.

Jim