Liberal, yes. Socialist, no.

We shall see. I have a question for either you or other Trump supporters. An honest question.

FACT 1: Trump won the 2016 election by turning long-time blue states Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania red.

FACT 2: Trump's margin of victory in those 3 states was razor thin in 2016.

FACT 3: In January 2017 when Trump took office his approval rating in those 3 states was +6, +8, and +10. In January 2019 Trump's approval rating in those 3 states was -16, -15, and -10.

FACT 4: In the November midterms last year, the incumbent Wisconsin Republican governor was ousted and the incumbent Democratic senator was easily re-elected. In Michigan the incumbent Democratic senator and governor were easily re-elected. In Pennsylvania the incumbent Democratic senator and governor were easily re-elected.

So even without having any idea who the Democratic nominee for POTUS will be in 2020, why do you think Trump will be able to win Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania?

As a secondary question, do you foresee any states that voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 turning red in 2020? Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I expect Colorado to come over with its 9 electoral votes.
I expect Maine to come over with its 4 electoral votes.
I expect Minnesota to come over with its 10 electoral votes.
I expect Nevada to come over with its 6 electoral votes.
I expect Virginia to come over with its 13 electoral votes.
I think Trump will lose Michigan and its 16 electoral votes.
I think Trump will lose Wisconsin and its 10 electoral votes.
Trump is up by 16 over his numbers in 2016 or 322 to 216.

Thanks for the input. Would you cite the link to the data.
Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Sorry thought I posted the link.

https://triblive.com/opinion/david-u...y-no-accident/

An expression we often see on this board is "hijack", as in distracting from the intended subject of the original post. I suspect it is not intentional, but more a function of our nation's rising level of "attention deficit syndrome". Our president takes advantage of this national affliction each and every day with new and blathering tweets that mock and belittle people. If this board is an accurate reflection, and it sort of is, our nation has descended into a bunch of attention-lacking, name-calling adolescents. We suffer attention deficit syndrome on a mass scale. The media jumps from subject to subject, following our president with his whining, mocking tweets. What about nepotism and security clearances? Oh, that was last week's worry. What about Jared and Ivanka using unprotected emails for government business? Oh, that was, like, ten days ago. What about the conflict of interest with Saudi Arabia? That was last week's news. What about when Trump's communications team altered a video tape to make it look like a journalist manhandled an intern? Long forgotten. What about Trump's so-called doctor admitting that he did not write Trump's medical report, and that Trump actually wrote it? That was some yesteryear. And on and on and on and on and on.

Thanks for the input. Would you cite the link to the data.

Here is a poll which shows Trump in trouble but does not break it down by state.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/mee...-trump-n978331

Here is another poll which shows Trump losing to a generic Democratic opponent, but again does not break it down by state:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/mee...-trump-n978331

And another showing Trump trailing Biden and Sanders:

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...matchup-790890 Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

NBC polls...nuff said.
Match up more than a year and a half away...yeah right!!
Speed you better let chim chim drive.

An expression we often see on this board is "hijack", as in distracting from the intended subject of the original post. I suspect it is not intentional, but more a function of our nation's rising level of "attention deficit syndrome". Our president takes advantage of this national affliction each and every day with new and blathering tweets that mock and belittle people. If this board is an accurate reflection, and it sort of is, our nation has descended into a bunch of attention-lacking, name-calling adolescents. We suffer attention deficit syndrome on a mass scale. The media jumps from subject to subject, following our president with his whining, mocking tweets. What about nepotism and security clearances? Oh, that was last week's worry. What about Jared and Ivanka using unprotected emails for government business? Oh, that was, like, ten days ago. What about the conflict of interest with Saudi Arabia? That was last week's news. What about when Trump's communications team altered a video tape to make it look like a journalist manhandled an intern? Long forgotten. What about Trump's so-called doctor admitting that he did not write Trump's medical report, and that Trump actually wrote it? That was some yesteryear. And on and on and on and on and on. Originally Posted by agrarian

I see you've been get your news from CNN!
At least you won't have to worry about them running out of cool-aid for you...
Isn't this the same network that says if he wins in 2020 he won't leave office in 2024...by declaring marshal law??

You obviously don't understand the meaning of the post. I am really not surprised. You don't strike me as having a winning attitude anyway. Originally Posted by Levianon17

How you spend your day?

How you spend your day?




Originally Posted by bamscram

I have a pretty good idea how you spend yours.

I have a pretty good idea how you spend yours. Originally Posted by Levianon17

You get three guesses, lets see how accurate they are.

Off topic...

Try posting something that makes sense. Originally Posted by bamscram

^^^ Wow! I can't believe what I just read!

You, of all people in the Political Forum, actually said this??

Your comment gives new, unprecedented meaning to the word "chutzpah"!!

Six months ago the word socialist wasn't part of the propaganda. Then someone started pushing it as a theme and now everyone starts repeating it. Granted, some Democrats have socialist tendencies, but far from all of us. Using this blanket description to categorize an entire political party is an insult to those of us Democrats -and we are in the majority, I assure you- who are uninterested in living in a socialist country. Originally Posted by agrarian

Bernie Sanders, the Vermont hippie who hasn't had a new idea since the 60s and couldn't even last one week at a hippie commune back in 1971 because he was too lazy to work and just wanted to sit around talking about Che Guevara, has embraced the term "socialist" for decades! Now half the candidates for the Dimotard nomination are following his lead! You shouldn't complain to Republicans for "tarring" your dimotard brethren with a label they find endearing!!

Originally Posted by agrarian
Six months ago the word socialist wasn't part of the propaganda. Then someone started pushing it as a theme and now everyone starts repeating it. Granted, some Democrats have socialist tendencies, but far from all of us. Using this blanket description to categorize an entire political party is an insult to those of us Democrats -and we are in the majority, I assure you- who are uninterested in living in a socialist country.


LL is correct - the DPST party is now led by avowed "Socialists" who follow the Maduro line. Bernie ,AOC, and others rush to the Socialist Agenda.

If A. is not a socialist - perhaps re-consider which party One is supporting.

You can dismiss my earlier points by blaming my watching CNN. Truth is, I rarely watch CNN. But the points I made are sarcastic examples of media and the public jumping all over the place regarding topics and issues. Attention deficit victims. I could do the exact same thing by pointing out this problem by identifying precise quotes from Trump himself -- dumb and crude stuff he seems to say and tweet on a daily basis. The media leaps around covering and over-analyzing the stupid quotes and tweets every day, just like he issues them every day. Over and over and over and over. Trump childishly badmouths McCain, Conway, Warren, everyone who doesn't agree with him or criticizes him. Trump foolishly declares that his own security institutions are less trustworthy than Putin. He denies having an affair with the porn star. He works closely with the National Inquirer to manipulate the news about himself. He backtracks on statements, claiming he meant a different word, whatever. He declares that he is an expert on drones, international security, cheeseburgers, architecture, mass transit, etc. etc. He boasts: "Nobody knows more about XXX than me." for countless subjects. Is this more fake news? My point is that we don't spend any time thinking about real issues anymore. It's all childish drama and petty baloney and the weirded out hyperbole of a ego-maniac who happens to be our president. We're all being reduced to bickering and drowning in attention deficit syndrome. I get the feeling that that's just what our president wants.

^^^ Wow! I can't believe what I just read!

You, of all people in the Political Forum, actually said this??

Your comment gives new, unprecedented meaning to the word "chutzpah"!! Originally Posted by lustylad

If you are having trouble have another Alt right trumpkin explain it . Oh right they won't understand it either.

I expect Colorado to come over with its 9 electoral votes.
I expect Maine to come over with its 4 electoral votes.
I expect Minnesota to come over with its 10 electoral votes.
I expect Nevada to come over with its 6 electoral votes.
I expect Virginia to come over with its 13 electoral votes.
I think Trump will lose Michigan and its 16 electoral votes.
I think Trump will lose Wisconsin and its 10 electoral votes.
Trump is up by 16 over his numbers in 2016 or 322 to 216. Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn

Thanks for the response. Colorado is becoming more Democratic year by year. Minnesota was close in 2016 but historically Democratic. Clinton won VA by 5%. Hard for Trump to overcome such a deficit. His approval rating in VA has gone from +8 in 2017 to -10 in 2019.

Certainly possible though.