OK, I concede....

We have our candidate; the only possible candidate in modern history with enough strength, gumption, wealth, confidence, fortitude, patriotism and commitment to actually overcome the scope of the onslaught against him….

…and due to the severity of the hatred against the very basic principles of America, he rises each day and stands in the gap while wearing an actual bullet-proof vest.

Taking a knee is not a fucking option.

With profound appreciation for your time and attention, and the warmest of personal regards.

Truly,

Sundance

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...ust-americans/

Actually you elect people to the capital to whine about the thing they need to the smart people who fixed the problem, not turn around and rob them.

Wow that thread drove whiffy into a mega meltdown.

I have never seen anyone vent a spleen like Old T did over Donald Trump.

its obvious he doesn't like Hillary. bit doesn't like donald too much either.

so, who's he voting for??? Gary Johnson or Jill Stein if not the above 2? Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

Fair question.

No, I don't like Trump, but I vehemently despise Clinton. It is a couple orders of magnitude greater--and I admit it is probably because I have been close enough to her ills that I will never get over the stench.

My biggest issue with Trump (among a lot of them) is how terrible a campaign he has run.

Who will I vote for? I honestly don't know, but I know (1) I won't abstain, (2) I won't vote for Clinton.

Actually, when Hillary wins, a number of them have promised to take the first 90 days off.

We'll see how many of them welsh on their bet.

Fair question.

No, I don't like Trump, but I vehemently despise Clinton. It is a couple orders of magnitude greater--and I admit it is probably because I have been close enough to her ills that I will never get over the stench.

My biggest issue with Trump (among a lot of them) is how terrible a campaign he has run.

Who will I vote for? I honestly don't know, but I know (1) I won't abstain, (2) I won't vote for Clinton.

Originally Posted by Old-T

I think you will have to give Trump a mulligan on the way he ran his campaign.

He is not a politician. He's not used to speaking in "couched manner" like many politicians. He is, like it or not, speaking his mind. That much is obvious. I think this is why so many find him refreshing. Some don't like that and I wonder about them not appreciating someone who speaks his mind, however, inappropriate in some settings.

I think he has watched how the last 2 republican candidates ran their campaigns and lost. I think he has it in his mind not to run the way they did or rather the way their "expensive" campaign managers told them to run this way.

this is obviously no ordinary election. He has certainly shaken things up to a level no one expected, not even the experts.

Fair question.

No, I don't like Trump, but I vehemently despise Clinton. It is a couple orders of magnitude greater--and I admit it is probably because I have been close enough to her ills that I will never get over the stench.

My biggest issue with Trump (among a lot of them) is how terrible a campaign he has run.

Who will I vote for? I honestly don't know, but I know (1) I won't abstain, (2) I won't vote for Clinton.

Originally Posted by Old-T

Let me help ya out here ...



Robert A. Heinlein > Quotes > Quotable Quote


“If you are part of a society that votes, then do so. There may be no candidates and no measures you want to vote for ... but there are certain to be ones you want to vote against. In case of doubt, vote against. By this rule you will rarely go wrong.”


― Robert A. Heinlein, Time Enough for Love

given your similar absolute disdain of Clinton as mine and many others here, you either vote against Clinton i.e. Trump or don't bother.

this election can't come fast enough time for you ground hogs to go back into hiding. lol Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel

What if they don't go into hiding and start rioting instead?

It works for the [prohibited]'s - why not conservatives?

Hey Old-T - you're ok!

I take back everything I ever said about you!

You just can't get those lyrics from Mrs. Robinson out of your head, can ya?

"Laugh about it, cry about it, when you got to choose.... anyway you look at it, you lose!" Originally Posted by lustylad

I can't disagree with you, either.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...cid=spartanntp

I have made it clear over the past half year that I despise Clinton. That I think she is an evil psychopathic person. I kept expecting and hoping that the Reps would put up anyone sane and crush her.

But no, they find a true buffoon who spends more energy looking and acting like a spoiled brat than a presidential candidate. OK, well maybe he will still be able to stop the she-devil from being elected. I had my doubts but I kept hoping. Now I have officially given up hope. He really is a stupid idiot when it comes to the interpersonal skills needed to win

I concede. We will have four years of the most evil president ever. Hopefully the Reps can put someone up in 2020 who isn't an incompetent clown.

"MANHEIM, Pa. — Donald Trump's campaign announced Saturday evening that the candidate would soon deliver a nine-sentence critique of comments Hillary Clinton made months ago about many of the millennials supporting her primary rival, Bernie Sanders.*It was an attempt to latch onto a new headline in hopes of finally escaping the controversies that had consumed his week.

It didn’t work.

It took Trump nearly 25 minutes to read the brief statement because he kept going off on one angry tangent after another —*ignoring his teleprompters and accusing Clinton of not being “loyal” to her husband I suspect almost no undecided voter cares about that--the Thumpers are already in his pocket, and he doesn't understand that there aren't enough of them to win, imitating her buckling at a memorial service last month, incapable or unwilling to learn that being a perceived bully doesn't help suggesting that she is “crazy” and saying she should be in prison Where was that valid point on the debate?. He urged his mostly*white crowd Check the demographics Moron--when you alienate the non-whites, and can't capture anything remotely approaching 100% of the white vote that should be a clue that your race-centered marketing is doomed to failure.of supporters to go to polling places in "certain areas" on Election Day to "watch" the voters there. Just what does he propose? Let's talk in bigot code. Let's tell the supporters to do what--stare at a building? Act like the black New Black Panther thugs many of you rightfully decry? He also*repeatedly complained about having a "bum mic" at the first presidential debate Odd, did the bad mic cause him to bungle the debate and lose his temper? Did it make him forget to attack Clinton on key issues? Odd, I could hear what he said--too bad it was the wrong stuff.and wondered if he should have done another season of “The Apprentice.” Yea, THAT will win voters! Gag!

As Trump ranted*in this rural Pennsylvania town, The New York Times reported it had*anonymously received Trump’s 1995 income tax returns, which*show he declared a loss of $916 million -- a loss that he could use*to avoid paying any federal income taxes for up to 18 years.Portray yourself once again as really rich and smarter than the masses because you find loopholes to not pay taxes or people. Nothing wrong with using the tax code to your advantage, but instead of being up front with it, he tries to hide it. Instead of spinning it as best as he can he waits for the scumbag opponent to leak it and he looks far worse. Was he so stupid or naïve to think that Clinton WOULDN'T get it released one way or another?
The evening capped*one of*Trump's worst weeks of the campaign season, one that started with his shaky debate performance on Monday night and went on to include a public feud with a former beauty queen, a middle-of-the-night tweet storm, attacks on the Clintons' marriage and an examination of an decades-old adult film that briefly featured Trump*fully clothed.

The rally started more than an hour and 40 minutes late because heavy fog delayed Trump’s arrival. His supporters grew tired of his looping musical playlist, at one point chanting: “Turn it off! Turn it off!”

When*Trump finally took the stage, it was clear that he was worked up about something as he quickly rushed through his usual talking points. He read the first sentence of the prepared statement: “A new audio tape that has surfaced —*just yesterday —*from another one of Hillary’s high-roller fundraisers shows her demeaning and mocking Bernie Sanders and all of his supporters.”
Rather than continuing, Trump demeaned and mocked Sanders himself, That's right, Moron. Hit Clinton with a valid point and then demonstrate that you are no different! What an egotistical jerk who is obviously incapable of learningsaying that he has “a much bigger movement than Bernie Sanders ever had” and that he has “much bigger crowds than Bernie Sanders ever had.” Trump*accused Sanders of tarnishing his legacy by making a “deal with the devil” and supporting Clinton.
“Crazy Bernie,” Trump said at one point.

Eventually, Trump read a few more sentences, telling the audience that Clinton had described Sanders supporters as “living in their parents’ basements” and being trapped in dead-end jobs. Clinton made these comments more than seven months ago and seemed to sympathize with millennials who supported Sanders, although Republicans have tried to frame the remarks as an attack on young voters.
“In a really sarcastic tone because she’s a sarcastic woman,” Trump dryly said, going off-script.
He resumed his scripted spot: “To sum up…”
But he interrupted himself: “And I’ll tell you the other thing: She’s an incompetent woman. And I’ve seen it. She’s an incompetent woman.”
Halfway through the statement, Trump*took a nearly 20-minute-long break to cover a range of topics, THAT will convince the undecided voters that you have your act together! Sure. It makes you look even more like a clueless Buffoon. Are you TRYING to lose? I really suspect that is the case when I see a supposedly smart person be such an incompetent who has no clue where the fight actually is.including these:
— He reflected on how his movement has “the smartest people… the sharpest people… the most amazing people.” He said the pundits — “most of them aren’t worth the ground they’re standing on, some of that ground could be fairly wealthy ground” — have never seen a phenomenon like this.That is clearly true. We have never had such a pair of abject loses to pick between.
— He asked that the crowd if they are proud of President Obama, and they answered with a booming: “No!”
— He told the crowd to get a group of friends together on Election Day, vote and then go to “certain areas” and “watch” the voters there. "I hear too many bad stories, and we can't lose an election because of you know what I'm talking about,” Trump said. “So, go and vote and then go check out areas because a lot of bad things happen, and we don't want to lose for that reason.”
— He declared that he won Monday night’s debate Delusional! Admit you kept it close, acknowledge you had some good moments, especially early, but you LOST. Telling clear untruths is another way NOT to sway the undecided. Don't try and convince the middle ground that you are as big a liar as Clinton! Honesty should be one of the points you could win on, but not if you keep saying such blatant falsehoods. Moron!even though he had a “bum mic.” He asked the crowd if they think that “maybe that was done on purpose.” They cheered.
— He recounted how the “dopes at CNN” and “phony pundits” refused to acknowledge how well he was doing during the primaries. “Then we started getting 52 percent, 58 percent, 66 percent, 78 percent, 82 percent," Really? He has a clear majority? Not a majority, but a landslide beyond all imagining! More delusional lies when that is the last thing he needs.Trump said, not making clear what those numbers mean. "And they just didn’t understand what was going on.”
— He said Clinton could not fight bad trade deals or Russian President Vladimir Putin because “she can't make it 15 feet to her car,” alluding to video that showed*Clinton buckling as she unexpectedly left a 9/11 memorial service early. Suggestion: don't use Putin as the example. You don't exactly come across as "tough on the Russians". You could use China, NK, Iran--and make the same point but do so a little more believably.Her doctor later said she had pneumonia. Trump then imitated Clinton by flailing his arms and jostling side to side. He walked unsteadily away from the podium as if he were about to fall over. “Folks, we need stamina,” Trump said. “We need energy.”
— He claimed that he has a “winning temperament” while Clinton has “bad temperament.” Trump continued: “She could be crazy. She could actually be crazy.”
Trump read one more sentence of the statement and accused Clinton of saying that “most of the country is racist” because she said at the debate that “implicit bias is a problem for everyone, not just police.”
“Did anybody like Lester Holt?” Trump said, naming the debate moderator as his crowd booed.
Trump read one more sentence of the statement, then brought up Clinton’s use of a private email server while she was secretary of state.
“She should be in prison, let me tell you,” Trump said. “She should be in prison.”
The crowd cheered and chanted: “Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up!”
“And she’s being totally protected by The New York Times and The Washington Post and all of the media and CNN — Clinton News Network, which nobody is watching anyways so what difference does it make,” Trump said.
Trump accused Clinton of “lies and lies.”
“How many people have acid-washed or bleached a tweet?” Trump asked the crowd. “How many? That you deleted? So you deleted it but that’s not good enough. No, this is getting crazy. Our country is becoming a third-world country.”
Trump read the final sentence of the statement but by that point, he had overshadowed his campaign’s planned headline with numerous other ones. And he kept adding to the list.
Trump called Clinton a “lousy speaker” and accused her of giving away the jobs of hardworking Pennsylvanians to please her donors.
“You’re unsuspecting,” Trump said. “Right now, you say to your wife: ‘Let’s go to a movie after Trump.’ But you won’t do that because you’ll be so high and so excited that no movie is going to satisfy you. Okay? No movie. You know why? Honestly? Because they don’t make movies like they used to — is that right?” Really? THIS is the way to win votes--by saying they don't make movies like they used to? Wretch!
Trump yelled*at the media to show his crowd, which he said would make for “better television,” pledged*to win Pennsylvania and*called*supporters of international trade “blood suckers.”How many people have made more profit off international trade than Trump? Some topics are good for the message, others are not. For Trump, this is another self-induced poison pill.
“Oh, I could be doing the ‘Apprentice’ right now,” Trump said at one point, seeming to harken back to a happier time in his life. “I loved it — 14 seasons. How good was that? Tremendous success. They wanted to extend — I could be doing the ‘Apprentice’ now. Somehow I think this is a little bit more important. Do we agree? Just a little bit?”
As he spoke, dozens of people left the rally early, tired from*standing for hours and hoping to beat the traffic. Those who remained*leaned against walls, barricades and each other. One woman rubbed her knees. Another took a phone call: “I’m still here… He started an hour and a half late… I’ll call you whenever we get out of here.”
“I didn’t need to do this, folks,” Trump said of his candidacy. “Believe me. This is tough work… This is hard work. Believe me, folks. This is hard work.”
Trump told the crowd he’s beholden to his supporters and no one else.
“Hillary Clinton’s only loyalty is to her financial contributors and to herself,” Trump said. “I don’t even think she’s loyal to Bill, if you want to know the truth.”
The crowd gasped and many shouted: “Ohhhhh!”
Trump shrugged.
“And really, folks,” Trump continued, “really, why should she be? Right? Why should she be?”
He questioned how the Clintons earned so many tens of millions of dollars. He told a guy in the crowd he loved him even though he’s a guy. He pursed his lips as his supporters interrupted him with another “lock her up” chant. He reminded everyone that Bill Clinton was impeached because “everyone forgets.” He accused the media of allowing Clinton to “get away with murder.” He said African Americans will vote for him because he will fix their impoverished, dangerous neighborhoods that are “worse than war zones.” This COULD be a point he could make some progress on--too bad the color of his audience, the lack of any believable empathy, the lack of specifics, and stupid comments like "go to "some neighborhoods" to make sure "they" don't steal the election" don't make him sound very believable.
“People walk to the office, they walk to get a loaf of bread, they get shot, their child gets shot,” Trump said.
He rattled off some campaign promises —taxes, energy, coal, farms — and then paused to note the upcoming 10th anniversary of the mass shooting at an Amish schoolhouse here in Lancaster County that left five girls dead.
“Tonight when you say your prayers, I ask you to remember those five young beautiful girls and their families,” Trump said. “Another issue we’re going to deal with is in certain ways so important. But when I tell you about what I just did, that is a special group of people. So say prayers, please. Okay? Just remember those people and what they went through.”
It had seemed as if Trump was about to talk about gun control measures — which he has sharply opposed — but then stopped himself. Later in the speech he would praise the leaders of the NRA and promise to protect the 2nd Amendment.
He shifted back to trade and jobs moving overseas, repeating himself from earlier. And he complained again about his “bad mic” at the debate and “this character Lester Holt” who corrected him more than Clinton.
“You have 38 days to make every dream you ever dreamed for your country come true,” Trump said. “Do not let this opportunity slip away or be wasted. You will never ever have this chance again. Not going to happen again… You have one magnificent chance.”
Trump said he was finishing up but he kept going for seven more minutes. He congratulated himself on predicting the Brexit vote. He plugged a speech his daughter Ivanka Trump is giving in the state next week. He listed endorsements. He pointed at an American flag on stage. And he complained about Clinton’s “false” commercials.
“We are going to make America wealthy again,” Trump said*as he wrapped up. “We are going to make America strong again. We are going to make America powerful again. We are going to make America safe again. And we are going to make America great again.”
Trump thanked and blessed the crowd, pumped his fist in the air and then stepped aside to join them*in applauding his speech. Originally Posted by Old-T

Good post, though some parts of it hurt.

Anyone but Trump would beat Hillary - I wish we had nominated someone else. As much as I enjoy Trump sticking it into everyone's eye, he is indeed a terrible candidate.

His only hope to win comes from the fact Hillary sucks even worse.

Actually, when Hillary wins, a number of them have promised to take the first 90 days off.

We'll see how many of them welsh on their bet. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Don't be daft you fucking wanker.

Don't be daft you fucking wanker. Originally Posted by DSK

once a wanker, always a wanker!

37 minutes of the truth...

Hillary wanted to kill Assange for embarrassing the administration. That's evil. Witnesses against the Clinton's seem to commit suicide at an alarming rate, some by shooting themselves multiple times in the head. Might be pretty evil. Her lies and corruption are evil. Selling access to government is evil. Taking huge bribes from Goldmann Sachs and calling them "speaking fees" is evil. Lying to the Congress and FBI is evil. Hillary is evil.