Obamacare Death Panels Arriving

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Investigators Release Reports on Obama's Communist Connections:

Washington, DC- Two veterans of investigations into Communist influence on the U.S. political process have released two new explosive reports on Barack Obama's ties with extreme anti-American elements, including agents of the Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA. The reports will shed important new light on Barack Obama's mysterious past.

WHO: Herbert Romerstein, an author and investigative journalist, served as an investigator for the much-feared U. S. House Committee on Un-American Activities, the House Committee on Internal Security, and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. He was head of the Office to Counter Soviet Disinformation for the United States Information Agency. One of his recent books is the acclaimed THE VENONA SECRETS: EXPOSING SOVIET ESPIONAGE AND AMERICA'S TRAITORS.

Cliff Kincaid is an investigative journalist who specializes in analyzing the effects of communist and terrorist influence on the U.S. media. He is founder and president of America's Survival, Inc., and editor of Accuracy in Media's AIM Report. He is the author or coauthor of nine books, including WHY YOU CAN'T TRUST THE NEWS, and was instrumental in denying access to the U.S. media market to the Islamic terrorist Al-Jazeera television channel.

Major findings include:

Barack Obama has been influenced, surrounded and backed by communists, socialists, and those sympathetic to the Arab/Palestinian cause in the Middle East.

Obama has been in the middle of two international communist networks – one in Hawaii and one in Chicago.

The Hawaii network included communists Frank Marshall Davis, who was Obama’s personal mentor; actor/singer Paul Robeson; and labor leader Harry Bridges. The network was judged a security threat to the United States and the subject of a congressional hearing on the “Scope of Soviet Activity in the United States.”

The Hawaii communist network was organized directly by and from Moscow.
Obama covered up the true identity of Frank Marshall Davis in his book, Dreams From My Father.

The Chicago network included identified communists and socialists, was committed to a communist victory in the Vietnam War, and took instructions from the communist Castro regime in Cuba.

In addition to communist terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, who were members of the Weather Underground, the Chicago network includes many veterans of the communist Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) who now proclaim themselves “Progressives for Obama.”

One of the leaders of “Progressives for Obama” is former SDS leader Tom Hayden, who wrote a letter to a communist Vietnamese official during the Vietnam War hoping for a “victory” over the U.S.

Several SDS officials and the SDS itself had connections to the Communist Party USA.

The SDS openly promoted communism, the regimes in Hanoi and Havana, and condemned alleged U.S. “imperialism.”

There is evidence that Obama backer Bernardine Dohrn, who traveled to Cuba to meet with communist officials, was involved in a bombing that killed a policeman.

Ayers, who helped launch Obama’s political career, has traveled to Venezuela on several occasions and is an enthusiastic backer of the brand of communism being practiced and promoted by Hugo Chavez.
Ayers’ university office door and wall are plastered with communist, anti-Israel, and pro-Hugo Chavez propaganda.

Bernardine Dohrn has participated in two events organized by the Open Society Institute of Obama backer and billionaire leftist George Soros.

The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), a group that included a convicted espionage agent for communist East Germany, backed and promoted Obama’s political career.

Obama spoke at a memorial service on behalf of a leading Chicago socialist activist.

It appears that Obama actually worked for Ayers in a Chicago educational reform program that dispensed millions of dollars of grants.

Illinois State Senator Alice Palmer, who picked Obama as her successor, has a record of involvement in communist front activities.

Obama campaign strategist David Axelrod, as well as Obama himself, have not explained why Ayers, Dohrn, then-State Senator Alice Palmer, and Dr. Quentin Young came together at the Ayers/Dohrn home to launch Obama’s political career.

Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley, a client of Axelrod, issued a controversial and misleading statement defending Obama’s relationship with communist terrorist Bill Ayers.

Illinois Lt. Governor Pat Quinn, another Axelrod client, designated “Quentin Young Day” in the state, in honor of an Obama supporter once questioned about his involvement in backing SDS activities and who was accused of being a CPUSA member. (Young refused to deny he was a CPUSA member before a congressional committee but during an informal interview said he had never joined the CPUSA).
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  • 08-10-2013, 05:12 PM
If this is all about Obama then why did we also oppose the take over of healthcare by Hillary Clinton? I think you have all been caught in your own lie. This is not about Obama but about healthcare and the free market. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
Free market... you do realize that the states controlled the health care industry in each state. Now you might be for that but this is not about the so called free market. The states wanted you to have to buy their influence. With each post you show your ignorant mass e-mail Tea Party based POV.

http://www.examiner.com/article/stat...-health-reform

Most consumers of health insurance do not understand the kind and quality of health insurance that they can purchase is mostly governed by the state in which they live. All the talk about health reform has neglected to focus on the fact that each state has its own Insurance Department and each state has almost complete control over what health insurance is sold in the state, what it costs and how it is administered.
WOW! You are as stupid as they come. Its becoming more obvious that when God was passing out brains liberals got on the wrong line!
If you STFU and read more teach, you might quit commenting on things you know nothing about.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/05/ny...anted=all&_r=0

Jonathan Gruber, an economist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology who was a paid consultant to the Obama administration on health care policy, said forcing state and local governments to rein in health care costs was exactly what the tax was intended to do. Originally Posted by WTF
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  • 08-10-2013, 06:33 PM
WOW! You are as stupid as they come. Its becoming more obvious that when God was passing out brains liberals got on the wrong line! Originally Posted by therock18
God has passed out about as many brains as the EasterBunny you clueless hillbilly.
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Did you miss the part earlier where I talked about GOP ideas including allowing health insurance purchases across state lines. So it was the democrats who kept the states in charge. You can tip your queen now.
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Free market...

Most consumers of health insurance do not understand the kind and quality of health insurance that they can purchase is mostly governed by the state in which they live. Originally Posted by WTF
For some reason you think that the States controlling the quality of health insurance (or any insurance for that matter) is a bad thing? And for some reason you think that the States cannot do a good job of protecting consumers from predator insurance companies that feed on the uninformed insurance purchasers?


http://www.tdi.texas.gov/

"Most consumers" probably purchase their insurance through an agent, who IS familiar with the role of the State in establishing requirements for the companies who want to sell insurance in the State in which the insurance is to be issued. So they don't really need to know that the State regulates the industry .... their agent knows.

There were (and still are) states like Texas which have a lot of choices for health care for adults and children that have good coverage with a variety of options at competitive prices ... BEFORE OBAMACARE and still do ... and will no doubt continue to do so. Texans didn't need some fools from Illinois or California telling them how to run their insurance business ... whether it is auto, home, health or life.
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You numbnuts call end of life care Death Panels!

I have never understood you Tea Poopers logic, you want to cut spending and when a logical step is taken towards the fastest growing expenditure in government , you mislabel it as Death Panels for political purpose.

Which one of you want to pay more in taxes for the soon to die extended life care? You guys love to run up debt and then bitch about it, kinda like the Iraq War, cut taxes and then start an expensive war. What kind of logic is that? Pray do tell. Maybe JD can ask his mystery Priest! Originally Posted by WTF
WTF, excellent post. Bush came into office with a surplus. He lowered taxes in all seven brackets, and then INCREASED SPENDING. We spent 8 straight years in IRAQ at 20 billion per month, with the end result being no WMD's were found and no link to AL-Quaida was ever found. You are right it's just politics with JD Barleycorney and the right wingers. JD, if the old health care system is so great then why do we have 30 million people who no health insurance at all? In the old system if you have some sort of pre-existing condition, you can't get health insurance on your own. No one is going to cover someone with high blood sugar. Obamacare is for the 30 million people who can't get insurance where they work. If you get health insurance where you work nothing is changing for you. For all of those without health insurance, your coverage will begin 1/1/2014, just don't sick until then.
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... if the old health care system is so great then why do we have 30 million people who no health insurance at all?

In the old system if you have some sort of pre-existing condition, you can't get health insurance on your own. No one is going to cover someone with high blood sugar. Obamacare is for the 30 million people who can't get insurance where they work. If you get health insurance where you work nothing is changing for you. For all of those without health insurance, your coverage will begin 1/1/2014, just don't sick until then. Originally Posted by flghtr65
#1: You actually bought into the original theme song about why "we" need "Obamacare"!
#2: Where did you get this stat? "
...." the 30 million people who can't get insurance where they work. "

Obamacare had NOTHING to do with quality of our "health care system"!

The "Affordable Care Act" has to do with how one pays for the services.
http://www.hhs.gov/healthcare/rights/law/index.html.

If you are participating in "open enrollment" this fall you will see the following changes:

1. no copays for scheduled "preventive" services.
2. increased copays for scheduled "non-preventive" services
3. increased deductibles for all services
4. increased premiums.

To defray the increased costs of providing care to those ....

.................... who WISH NOT TO HAVE COVERAGE ....

insurers are:

1. reducing the scheduled "preventive" services
2. increasing the copays for non-preventive services
3. increasing premiums for their plans.

That is the primary reason the UNIONS GET EXEMPTIONS ... including Federal employees! and the Secretary of HHS has issued about 2,500 EXEMPTIONS since the bill was passed.

We have roughly 315,000,000 people in this country .. and you, with your driveling liberal friends want to fuck 285,000,000 of them for your quoted number of 30,000,000 ...

or putting it another way .. the fabricated 30 million people represent less than 10% of the population and you want to fuck 90% of the population with a fabricated 10% number.

This is YOUR NUMBER:

"the 30 million people who can't get insurance where they work. "

Here's your reality (if you have to use "Obamacare") ...

Last year you went to the lab to get a test to monitor your condition...paid copay.

Next year you won't pay the copay, but you'll have to go to PCP to get "prescription" for the lab work and pay the PCP a HIGHER COPAY on TOP OF THE HIGHER PREMIUM.

MY PCP quit doing "inhouse lab work" BECAUSE OF .. the new GUIDELINES!

As the ole saying goes: The DEVIL is in the details.

Why in the hell do you think Obaminable (and his goons Nancy and Reid) wanted the thing to kick in in 2014 ... AFTER THE 2012 election!!!!

Here's the other bullshit FACT about your drivel ...

employers are cutting hours for existing hourly employees below 30 hours a week and NOT HIRING new full time employees .... unless, of course, they have been provide an EXEMPTION by the Secretary of HHS.
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  • 08-11-2013, 08:08 AM
Did you miss the part earlier where I talked about GOP ideas including allowing health insurance purchases across state lines. So it was the democrats who kept the states in charge. You can tip your queen now. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
What I did not miss was your idiotic claim that you wanted free market insurance.

This is not about Obama but about healthcare and the free market. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
If it is about the free market you would be bitching about state regulations.

This is where I make fun of you hypocritical state rights Tea pukes. You do not mind a state telling you wtf to do but you hate the Federal government doing so. Of course you are to ignorant to understand that there is no difference.

For some reason you think that the States controlling the quality of health insurance (or any insurance for that matter) is a bad thing? And for some reason you think that the States cannot do a good job of protecting consumers from predator insurance companies that feed on the uninformed insurance purchasers?


. Originally Posted by LexusLover
No LexusLiar, I think the states controlling insurance is no better than the Federal Government.


I'm also not idiotic enough to claim that Obamacare is about free market insurance, like JD stated and is now trying to backtrack from.
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What I did not miss was your idiotic claim that you wanted free market insurance.

If it is about the free market you would be bitching about state regulations.

This is where I make fun of you hypocritical state rights Tea pukes. You do not mind a state telling you wtf to do but you hate the Federal government doing so. Of course you are to ignorant to understand that there is no difference. Originally Posted by WTF
Oh, asswipe, you don't mind me setting up a "health insurance" company and start selling "health coverage" on your 'FREE MARKET" do you?

You really do need to stick with cleaning the "rough" off your golf balls.

"TeaPukes"? ... They puke because of the likes of folks like you.
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  • 08-11-2013, 08:17 AM
Oh, asswipe, you don't mind me setting up a "health insurance" company and start selling "health coverage" on your 'FREE MARKET" do you?

. Originally Posted by LexusLover
I'll wipe my ass on your face. Your post made no sense to me , so fuck off until your can learn to type shit that makes sense.


You really do need to stick with cleaning the "rough" off your golf balls.

"TeaPukes"? ... They puke because of the likes of folks like you. Originally Posted by LexusLover


Good maybe Obamacare will cure them of that chickenshit puking.
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I'll wipe my ass on your face. Your post made no sense to me , so fuck off until your can learn to type shit that makes sense. I doubt that's possible to "make sense to you" ... asswipe...... Go clean some more golf balls.

Good maybe Obamacare will cure them of that chickenshit puking. It's not covered, because it's considered a psychological reaction to ignorance.. your ignorance and those like you. Originally Posted by WTF
Got it? Or do you need the Big Chief tablet treatment also?
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  • 08-11-2013, 08:30 AM
Got it? Or do you need the Big Chief tablet treatment also? Originally Posted by LexusLover
Thank God your kind is dying out.

You greedy bastards didn't pay for wars you started and you want your grandchildren to pay for your end of life care that you did not pay enough into. No God damn wonder you keep losing national elections. Oh and you think State Government telling you wtf to do is better than the Feds doing so! That's like saying you'd rather be hung with a hemp rope instead of a rope....
In breeding causes folks like LL JD and IB.
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In breeding causes folks like LL JD and IB. Originally Posted by i'va biggen
As opposed to NO BREEDING for you and WTF?