"Just call me Caitlyn" - Bruce Jenner/Vanity Fair article

JUDGMENT
JUDGE NOT, that you be not Judged. For with the Judgment you pronounce you will be Judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the Speck that is in your Brother's eye, but DO NOT notice the Log that is in your own Eye? Or how can you say to your Brother, ‘Let me take the Speck out of your eye,’ when there is the Log in your own eye? You Hypocrite, first take the Log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the Speck out of your brother's eye."
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Matthew 7:1-29


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  • 06-04-2015, 11:45 AM
Jenner is still a guy; he hasn't had the transformal surgery...so no, Jenner isn't a lesbian. Originally Posted by Whirlaway
So what does the future really hold for this guy? I would have to agree with you from your earlier posts. Jenner is suffering from some sort of Mental Disorder. Possibly a form of Dimorphic Disorder or something like it.

Jim
Originally Posted by Ninotsugi
Yeah, Seriously. Bruce Jenner could have a mental disorder. It's called Body Dysmorphic Disorder.

Jim

http://www.wetpaint.com/2014-02-20-b...phic-disorder/
JUDGMENT
JUDGE NOT, that you be not Judged... and with the measure you use it will be measured to you... You DO NOT notice the Log that is in your own Eye??? You Hypocrite, first take the Log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the Speck out of your brother's eye."
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Matthew 7:1-29


Originally Posted by Ninotsugi
Okay...

Yeah, Seriously. Bruce Jenner could have a mental disorder. It's called Body Dysmorphic Disorder.

Jim

http://www.wetpaint.com/2014-02-20-b...phic-disorder/ Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

Now... what do YOU believe Saint Matthew wrote,
I am no Theologian but I am extremely open and always ready for new perspectives.

It sounds like he's made a courageous choice. Trying to label it as a disorder strikes me as self - serving as it does little more than label this a disease that's able to be treated. Maybe it's simply his choice?
It sounds like he's made a courageous choice. Trying to label it as a disorder strikes me as self - serving as it does little more than label this a disease that's able to be treated. Maybe it's simply his choice? Originally Posted by txcwby6
Txcwby6 Exactly 100% Correct... I have enough on MY Plate, than to JUDGE another Human-Being
on the CHOICES they make or the way they lead their Life.
I don't understand. Are you saying that you have no opinion about Jenner's situation? Or are you saying you have made the decision (A JUDGEMENT) that if Jenner considers himself to be woman then that is what he is.




Txcwby6 Exactly 100% Correct... I have enough on MY Plate, than to JUDGE another Human-Being
on the CHOICES they make or the way they lead their Life.
Originally Posted by Ninotsugi
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Welcome to the word Caitlyn....all I gotta say.

Oh and that she looks like someone smushed Jessica Lange w/ Rene Russo .
I don't understand. Are you saying that you have no opinion about Jenner's situation? Or are you saying you have made the decision (A JUDGEMENT) that if Jenner considers himself to be woman then that is what he is. Originally Posted by Whirlaway
Whirlaway... is this a discussion of Terminology or Judgment, I did not 'Die On A Cross'
for anyone therefore I have absolutely NO right to JUDGE anyone.
Okay...




Now... what do YOU believe Saint Matthew wrote,
I am no Theologian but I am extremely open and always ready for new perspectives.

Originally Posted by Ninotsugi
I am not judging Jenner at all. The only thing I am saying is his decision to live as a female may stem from a clinical mental dysfunction which has given rise to that decision. A person may make many decisions in life some will be good ones, some not so good. The decision to change ones gender isn't exactly a common decision one would ordinarily make. Whatever internal battles he has gone through over the years it must come from somewhere. That somewhere is the brain.

Jim
Rambo...gawd awmighty, son, you do have a way with words, don't you.....lol. I must say, you do crack me up sometimes. Anyway, that said, Elizabeth's right...in this particular forum, anything's game and blasting someone just because they're "different" is considered un-cool. So....you being a pretty chill guy would know everything has it's time and it's place, right? Peace.

I've written all I need to say on this topic and don't need to keep repeating myself. (However) I do want to say once again I (still) have a major axe to grind with ESPN for their recent selection of Jenner as this year's recipient (at next month's ESPY award show) of the Arthur Ashe Courage Award.

First of all, it's been almost 40 years since Jenner competed and won the Gold at the 1976 Olympics.....wouldn't you think ESPN has had ample time & opportunity to honor / recognize Jenner for his past accomplishments? Guess not....

So now they decide the time is right.

Has nothing to do with the (downward) spiking viewership the ESPY's have generated each of these past 7 - 8 years, right? After all, the suits at ESPN aren't looking at this as an opportunity to gain some of that Karda$hian reality $how audience, huh?

Past recipients....Muhammad Ali...Jim Valvano...Dean Smith...Pat Tillman.....each had great stories to tell per their lives, accomplishments and how they touched others' lives. And now we get Vanity Fair's newest cover girl......say what..?

Look, I don't have an issue with Jenner and his (uhhh, her) recent decision regarding his (dammit...!) gender reassignment; let's be clear on that. Live and let live, I say.

But I do have an issue with ESPN and their decision to trick their crappy award show up simply to gain a few more eyeballs. Simply put, this has absolutely nothing to do with honoring Jenner; it's about ratings, money and their obvious need / desire to pat themselves on the back for being so fucking PC.
I doubt if that's the only reason why..
I am not judging Jenner at all. The only thing I am saying is his decision to live as a female may stem from a clinical mental dysfunction which has given rise to that decision. A person may make many decisions in life some will be good ones, some not so good. The decision to change ones gender isn't exactly a common decision one would ordinarily make. Whatever internal battles he has gone through over the years it must come from somewhere. That somewhere is the brain.

Jim Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin
Hmm there must be very many clinically dysfunctional people out there cause there are more of us than you think. I knew since I was little so in my vast life at a young age the things i went through made me that way? I think not the ONLY thing you got right Jim is it does come from the brain...oh and Rambro.....VERY VERY TINY!!!!