Angry gentleman doesn't know how to research providers!

I've joined Eccie a week ago and the "you need a new hobby" is already getting old.
I'm not lazy, I am busy making money. I don't have unrealistic expectations, expectations are proportionate to my spending.

Thank you for the pro tip! Originally Posted by mjsw

Sorry, but NO. It is not how much you spend that counts the most. Flash your roll and act like a big spender - and get robbed or rolled. Not wise.

Take your time, and take the time, for more than a little research and you will find quality women.

Find a woman you can work with, not one you can impress. You may impress the wrong people.

It is all about playing safe when one wants to walk on this side of the street.

JR

Today I've invested 20 minutes of my time searching for an app but the only thing I could find is this one: apphoneypot.com. Doesn't seem very popular though.

Why aren't nerds developing apps for this hobby?! Originally Posted by mjsw

Seriously, I just wonder what you would want an app do do for you? There are numerous sites that identify ladies near you, that is the simple part. The time consuming part is doing the research, but if you don't feel the need to do that, no foolproof app ever will. Would you really want to allow a piece of software to do your thinking for you?

so let me get this straight, brainio.....you're unhappy with the information you get on a site like eccie, and you're unhappy with the resulting encounters....

so you want an app to make it more convenient......for you to get the same information and results?

Seriously, I just wonder what you would want an app do do for you? There are numerous sites that identify ladies near you, that is the simple part. The time consuming part is doing the research, but if you don't feel the need to do that, no foolproof app ever will. Would you really want to allow a piece of software to do your thinking for you? Originally Posted by Old-T

I think we are getting off-topic with the issue.
My problem was not identifying ladies nearby, in fact I currently use a combination of websites I trust and they are perfectly up to the task, otherwise I would be dating any lady in the first place.

The real problem comes afterwards: "no matter how much research and experience I sometimes end up with providers that are definitely not what they were advertising".
I have put some thought into it and the problem lies in the reviews. One lady in particular has caught my attention. Following my review, a bad one given the fact that she was totally different from the pictures uploaded, she deleted her profile and made a new one. Same info, same pictures, same phone number.
Her next gentleman is going to face the same rip-off.

Usernames are useless, the proof lies in my example. To erase your history you simply need to delete you profile and create a brand new one.
The app I mentioned previously, Honeypot, at least tracks providers based on their phone number. Each and every review is assigned to the most valuable asset a provider has, her phone number.

Which one is harder to change? Your username or your phone number? You already know the answer. No algorithm is fool-proof but at least websites can get smarter. The architecture around this hobby is obsolete.

How do you fuel your hobby? Originally Posted by mjsw

I sell black market girl scout cookies and paint taint. Originally Posted by pyramider

Completed the thought

Why aren't nerds developing apps for this hobby?! Originally Posted by mjsw

Ha. They are. Software can't solve all your problems and automatically produce the perfect date -- but it can help. In LA I can view a provider's safety network and contact clients one-on-one who have seen her. These are clients who haven't posted reviews, they've just tagged a safety rating -- so there are a lot more of them to ensure you get quick responses. I can ask them specific questions that I am interested in beyond just the menu -- in almost real time across multiple providers that are currently advertising, and set something up very quickly. And I've gotten a very high hitrate of great sessions on short notice, especially as I've improved the questions I ask the other clients.

Problem is, there's only one site I know of that does that well, and it's LA-only -- and even it has issues and limitations. That's pretty much why I built my site.

The app I mentioned previously, Honeypot, at least tracks providers based on their phone number. Each and every review is assigned to the most valuable asset a provider has, her phone number. Originally Posted by mjsw

I don't agree. Providers change their phones and emails all the time, e.g. when someone starts stalking them. Their review/safety network, OTOH, is something they really don't want to walk away from. If there's a system that keeps track of that.

<holds head in shame> mine are a couple weeks old. Epic Fail.. ill update now.. unless... you rather i just send them directly to you? Originally Posted by Devon Derriere

If he doesn't want them, I'll take them!

I've joined Eccie a week ago and the "you need a new hobby" is already getting old.
I'm not lazy, I am busy making money. Originally Posted by mjsw

Tell you what, you keep busy making money, send me your monthly hobby budget from what you make, and I'll make sure you get screwed.

I think we are getting off-topic with the issue.
My problem was not identifying ladies nearby, in fact I currently use a combination of websites I trust and they are perfectly up to the task, otherwise I would be dating any lady in the first place.

The real problem comes afterwards: "no matter how much research and experience I sometimes end up with providers that are definitely not what they were advertising".
I have put some thought into it and the problem lies in the reviews. One lady in particular has caught my attention. Following my review, a bad one given the fact that she was totally different from the pictures uploaded, she deleted her profile and made a new one. Same info, same pictures, same phone number.
Her next gentleman is going to face the same rip-off.

Usernames are useless, the proof lies in my example. To erase your history you simply need to delete you profile and create a brand new one.
The app I mentioned previously, Honeypot, at least tracks providers based on their phone number. Each and every review is assigned to the most valuable asset a provider has, her phone number.

Which one is harder to change? Your username or your phone number? You already know the answer. No algorithm is fool-proof but at least websites can get smarter. The architecture around this hobby is obsolete. Originally Posted by mjsw

These days they are equally easy to change, particularly if you are using something like GoogleVoice. A few minutes and you have a new number. Don't even need to change your SIM card.

Fling, that sounds like a good app, and perhaps they will expand it some day.

To the OP, the problem with apps is almost nobody is going to write a seriously good app unless they can figure out a way to monetize it first. And if you read enough here, you will find out that's not a easy proposition with this crowd, i.e., we are all a bunch of cheap fuckers.

Also, you do know that Yelp has an app version of their site, right? Guess what, you still have to read the reviews if you want to find a place for a good steak, or a decent plumber, etc. or do you just go to the place with the most stars?

Fling, that sounds like a good app, and perhaps they will expand it some day. Originally Posted by FoulRon

Well I'm glad to hear you say that. HX probably won't expand - they are rooted in PornoLand, and they don't have the maps or user interface to expand effectively. But my site does have maps so it doesn't have to be limited to a particular area, and it has the safety and review features I described above. So I'm hoping it's useful enough to make life in the rest of the country/world as easy as it is for me in LA.

Seriously, it's not even close. When I'm on the east coast I'm lucky if I can get a session (a great session, mind you, not just any session) with a few days notice. That's including the research it takes to find the right provider. In LA, same thing takes a few hours start to finish - and is even more likely to produce a fantastic time. That's not because the ladies there are easier or more numerous... It's because the social network has been set up in a more efficient way, and that's the job of the web app. So yeah... visit my site!

The problem, as you mention, is the monetization. I've put in an enormous amount of time (and quite a bit of money too) into building my site -- and I know I won't see a dime from it for a very long time (if indeed ever). So we shall see.

Here's the reason behind this poll:
In my life I've spent thousands on companions, but no matter how much research and experience I sometimes end up with providers that are definitely not what they were advertising (in both appearance and performance).

I hate to waste my time and money on fake providers, it is enraging. Therefore, how do you research new companions? Originally Posted by mjsw

If you're in Austin area I would use Still Looking as my reference guide.
He is the man with the plan in the Austin area.

That's a really good idea, however I don't have the time to m&g.
I need a fake-proof tool to search providers when I'm on the go.

If there's none simply say no Originally Posted by mjsw

Are you for real? You plan on spending INTIMATE time with someone, and probably somewhere between $200-$400, and you don't have time to search?

The common denominator here is YOU.

No, there is no app or magic fool proof picker for you. LOL Read reviews on reputable sites such as ECCIE. Then take an average of the reviews. Are 25 out of 26 reviews positive? Do they state that the girl looks like her pics?

Do you have time to get Premium Access to read the ROS? Or do you just want to complain?

If you're that short on time, have your assistant book an appointment, and give you a review. Idk dude....

I use every source I can to get good beta. You get used to reading reviews and service descriptions, which helps weed out the ones you aren't going to like. Even then, not every visit is better than the last. It is the nature of life that some experiences are once in a lifetime and most are, well, average. I try to look for the high points and if there are none, I just cross that provider off and move on.

I will give you what you ask for sir.

NO.