Elizabeth Wsrren Speaks out about "Big BAnks" Your Taxpayer Money Used to Grow Profits for Big Banks!

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This is PRECISELY why you're a fucking bush leaguer, IBJunior. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

You are the biggest LIGHTWEIGHT in this forum by a wide margin, Assup. That's why you are consistently voted Dipshit of the Year. You keep calling me a bush leaguer precisely because you're scared shitless of anyone who knows how to use facts, data and logic to advance an argument. Every single one of my posts has more substance than all 24,000 of yours combined, you sperm-burping spammer.



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA! Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Your Hillary cackle ain't makin' it here either.

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You are the biggest LIGHTWEIGHT in this forum by a wide margin, Assup. That's why you are consistently voted Dipshit of the Year. You keep calling me a bush leaguer precisely because you're scared shitless of anyone who knows how to use facts, data and logic to advance an argument. Every single one of my posts has more substance than all 24,000 of yours combined, you sperm-burping spammer.





Your Hillary cackle ain't makin' it here either.

. Originally Posted by lustylad
He's not wrong. You do get quite defensive when challenged. I merely posed a question. As for the union question, wasn't it Boeing that tried to build their Dreamliner in SC, specifically to avoid unionized workers? If the companies in that list are unionized, it isn't because they wouldn't prefer the case be different.
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As for the union question, wasn't it Boeing that tried to build their Dreamliner in SC, specifically to avoid unionized workers? If the companies in that list are unionized, it isn't because they wouldn't prefer the case be different. Originally Posted by WombRaider

So what? Now that you've scanned the top 10 list and noticed I was correct to point out most of them are unionized, do you think you can save face by saying - yeah, but some of them wish they weren't? What's the point, undercunt? Trying my patience or getting at the truth?

By the way, many of those union workers earn six figures and have gold-plated Cadillac health insurance coverage. Does that square with your definition of "little guys"?
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  • 04-22-2015, 06:58 PM
So what? Now that you've scanned the top 10 list and noticed I was correct to point out most of them are unionized, do you think you can save face by saying - yeah, but some of them wish they weren't? What's the point, undercunt? Trying my patience or getting at the truth?

By the way, many of those union workers earn six figures and have gold-plated Cadillac health insurance coverage. Does that square with your definition of "little guys"? Originally Posted by lustylad
Lusty you are such a fucking baby. Yssup is right, you are like an IB Junior.

My guess is you're probably at least 50 years old. Yet here you are acting like you're 10. No wonder you get proven wrong so often, you short-tempered brat.
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He's not wrong. You do lose patience when rudely interrupted and showered with childish spam from fools like me and my idiot sidekick shammytard. I merely posed another unbearably stupid question. Originally Posted by WombRaider

Perhaps you have a point, undercunt.
So what? Now that you've scanned the top 10 list and noticed I was correct to point out most of them are unionized, do you think you can save face by saying - yeah, but some of them wish they weren't? What's the point, undercunt? Trying my patience or getting at the truth?

By the way, many of those union workers earn six figures and have gold-plated Cadillac health insurance coverage. Does that square with your definition of "little guys"? Originally Posted by lustylad
Boeing didn't just wish. It actively tried to locate its plant in a right to work state. Unions have outlived their purpose. You won't find me a fan. I'm the one advocating for them to reach out to smaller businesses. Those six figure salaries and health insurance coverage are a big reason Detroit is in the shape it's in. Standing there all day and slapping the same part on over and over isn't a six-figure job. It's just not. But thanks to unions, they've made it so it is.
Perhaps you have a point, undercunt. Originally Posted by lustylad
Calls ME childish in the same post where he quotes me but changes what I said. Yeah...

He's right. You're a big baby.
To get back to why this thread was started in the first place. If Warren is really a champion for the little guy, as she clearly wants her image to reflect, she should call for reforms... Originally Posted by WombRaider
Fully agree, and not only with respect to this issue, but regarding a whole host of others.

But first, just a bit about my take on the Ex-Im debate:

From the outset, please note that I'm biased (as is the case with virtually everyone else, of course).

As a long-time early stage VC and private equity partner involved in smallish and mid-sized companies, I have a bit of a problem with politically-directed policy agendas that favor the biggest and best-connected players over their smaller competitors. Unfortunately, I believe that's increasingly become the case with Ex-Im, and that anyone purporting to be serious about a "reform" agenda, not just standard issue "business-as-usual" and demagoguery, should boldly promote something that actually amounts to ... well, a reform program! Everything that I've seen so far about Warren is that she's long on convenient, politically appealing rhetoric, and short on practicable and realistic reform ideas.

A good place for her (or any other serious individual, for that matter) to start would be our very bad and non-territorial corporate tax code. This is an issue on which many people on both sides of the ideological divide actually agree.

For instance:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...102601860.html

That was written way back in 2007. The amazing thing is that even after the author became Obama's CEA Chair, nothing happened in the way of a seriously robust push toward reform.

Why? I think it's because representatives of the biggest U.S. multinational corporations are not as unhappy with the existing code as one may assume, because they can finesse and game the system to a far greater extent than their smaller competitors can hope to do. Although the top statutory rate is 35% (closer to 40% if you add in average state corporate income taxes), few pay an effective rate anywhere near that level. Yet smaller firms have a more difficult time maneuvering to lower their effective rates, and therefore are placed at a competitive disadvantage. So the whole mess is essentially just another in a long list of crony capitalist shuffles.

Still, I believe the code -- especially the non-territoriality aspect of it -- does some damage to U.S. competitiveness and should be junked or fundamentally reformed.

Then when Ms. Warren gets finished dealing with that, I think she should move on to Dodd-Frank, and I don't mean just with respect to continuing her current noisy denunciations of anyone wanting to move to more appropriate and less damaging reform measures, or to roll back it's most damaging effects. Although it surely contains some beneficial elements, it's mind-numbingly complex and does little about TBTF. In fact, the biggest banks are now vastly bigger than they were in the pre-crisis days, and the largest traders and speculators are still able to play the same risky games. Although Warren opines that behemoths like Citi should be broken up, she offers little else in the way of practicable policy measures.

But instead of anything like the above, she seems to spend most of her rhetoric on tired bromides such as pushing the capital gains tax rate to what she and other progressives consider "fair" -- even though that would do little or nothing to raise additional revenue, let alone anything remotely like the resources needed to advance a progressive agenda, and if carried too far would likely backfire.
Completely agree. I'm always skeptical of those who champion reform. In her case, the capital gains tax is red meat to the rank and file Democrat who think that sticking it to the rich will somehow cure our problems. The bigger problem is the disappearing middle class. One could make a strong argument that the decline started with Reagan and supply-side economics and deregulation. It set us on the course we're still on today.

Also agree about tax rate and how companies are paying an effective rate much lower than the statutory rate. The tax code could use revision but the large companies that benefit have a strong lobby in DC. Is it a coincidence that politicians arrive moderately wealthy and leave filthy rich?
Can you, any of you, put your posts in more "easy reading form". Most do not even address posts that are very wordy, because they cannot pay attention that long. Thanks! If you want people to listen, make it shorter.