Hobbyist Reviews???

This board's intent, and like any boards, is about information and my post is about addressing the OP's blog about reviewing a hobbyist...good & bad. Let all information be out in a historic perspective so all others can learn and improve from. Limiting to just yes/no is no different like getting an okay on P411 which is a far superior screening site. Like Gina said, its for the lady's safety and security to follow strict screening practices...

Go ahead and build your site but there are some providers out there that scams, rip-offs and up-sells that may join your site. Are they allowed to review their unhappy clients with yes/no?

SF8 Originally Posted by shootfighter08

I agree there are bad providers and good ones just like clients. One bad review usually bring them to a halt. If people look at the over all average. They aren't going to see.

You could also end up with an issue were they do retaliatory reviews of one another.

By watching the data and having a complaint system to deal with frauds or up sellers.... then if you just have bad escort or even client posting negatives because they got a bad review one could do a couple things actually have someone else verify it as the sites expense. Or just remove both reviews or if in the clients case I asked who else he had used on the site I could contact them ask that girl if there was issues. ... There is a lot of ways one could try and deal with the issue.

Just so you know I did think of the retaliatory review issue as well.

For all P411s screening there are plenty of women on there not using their own pictures or using pictures that are years old. The real screening is done by the providers. After all what can they do with 69.00 dollars to check you out. General criminal check and sex offender registry. They don't do 1/100 of what the FBI did for my background check when I was in the Nuclear Program or working for DOD. People get passed those checks all the time that shouldn't. So the real verification is how the guy acts with a provider. You are talking being nice to a couple women for an hour each. Even a sociopath can pull that off. There are plenty of clients that will vouch for providers for a discount.

I don't like it...I don't think hobbiest should be reviewed...they are not the ones selling themselves. All we need to know about them is whether or not they are safe....a thumbs up/thumbs down should do this, or the "ok" system P411 has.
I have a regular who has always been very clean, smells good, and generous. I went to visit him once and he had just finished eating...which caused bad breath, bad taste in his mouth. If it was my first time seeing him, I could've made a poor hygeine review on him, not knowing any better. Or a gentleman could be needing a provider BECAUSE he is having a bad day....it would be sorry if I then wrote a review on him based on his bad day.

I don't like the whole idea of it, all I need and want to know is if he is 'safe'! Originally Posted by Tiffany Cums

Makes sense.
The one thing that always comes to mind when someone discusses if someone is safe or not. I guess being in the military and other areas of life you see people put under stress a lot more and so it is more visible. People snap everything is fine with them and one day something happens a trigger that sets the person off. People getting upset, negative, ... all or normal things in life. But people do just go off the deep end with out much warning at times. A lot of times there are warning signs but not always.

I agree to this post. I too had a bad experience yesterday with a man who know wants to post many ugly reviews about me. We all experience people who we just dont mesh with sometimes that is life. I pride myself in not being ugly nor untruthful. I have never lied about my performance or my looks I do not have to I have many nice reviews... But this man who for what ever reason is unhappy about himself is going to try and hurt me.... So I want to thank all of you men who I have had the blessed opportunity to spend time with and have treated me like a Queen..
Kisses Holli Originally Posted by Holli

I would have to tell all of you that Holli is wonderful and is everything that you are looking for. In this business, there are personalities that don't mix, so the person who was saying bad things about Holli is not worth your time to read. I have been with Holli many times in the past and she is everything you are looking for. I agree with Holli and will see her when possible. If you believe in what the other person is saying, you are missing out on a true and enjoyable person and experience.

Did he ask you for some kind of referral or review? If not, what makes you think he wants one? If he uses you as a referral to see another lady, give him an honest, wonderful reference. That's what you do.

Screw it, here I am.

Don't think of it as a review in the sense that the hobbyists are used to. Tooting my horn, my site has a section for providers to reference hobbyists, good and bad. We may not care about performance but we do care about whether you are safe or not, whether you are clean or not, whether you try to haggle or not, if you are NC/NS, if you are a time waster, blah blah blah. There is more to it that just an 'okay'. I don't care about the size of your penis or whether you have an amazing tongue or whether you are "hot". It's not a review in that sense of the word. Plus I want to hear what other ladies have to say and as many who wants to say them. Example:

Post #1: I saw grtrader (remember this is all back channel for VERIFIED providers and we have to identify you in some way). He was the sweetest person, showed up on time, very interesting to talk to, smelled wonderful, blah blah blah and yes I would recommend him.

Post #2: (providerB) I also saw this person and agree with everything that was said.

Post #3: (providerC) Well I must have saw him on a bad day because I thought he was a total jerk!

Post #4: (providerA) Can you please explain why you thought that?

Post #5: (providerC) He talks too much.

Post #6: (providerB) Whatever, as long as he is not dangerous.

Post #7: (providerD) No he is not I saw too and just LOVED him. Hope he calls me back soon.

etcetera etcetera etceteraaaaa

The purpose of this and the advantage of is being able to see more references that what the client told you. If he was sweet to two ladies and an asshole to everyone else, well of course he is going to give the name of the providers he was nice to. Second, appointments get missed due to difficulty in contacting references. Logging on here, the lady can see who referenced whom and whether it was positive or negative and also if the provider is someone you know and trust or the opposite. As always, if the lady wants more information she can still pm, call, or email one of the providers listed.

As to whether the hobbyists approve of this or not is not my concern so much as trying to help the ladies stay safe and comfortable enough to continue what they do best. This is just another method of communication between the ladies to help save time and money. Again, it's not a REVIEW, it's a written reference system.

We may not care about performance . . . I don't care about the size of your penis or whether you have an amazing tongue or whether you are "hot". Originally Posted by TxBrandy

Whew! Thank God!

Seriously, I wouldn't have expected that to be the focus of your system. Well, possibly a heads-up -- although it might not affect the decision of whether to see him -- if somebody was just absolutely incompetent in bed, so the next lady would be prepared. But that would be, maybe, the bottom 5%; for the vast majority, we would be within the mainstream where it's not important at all in the decision of whether to see us.

The purpose of this and the advantage of is being able to see more references that what the client told you. If he was sweet to two ladies and an asshole to everyone else, well of course he is going to give the name of the providers he was nice to. Originally Posted by TxBrandy

It's also quite likely that the client reacts differently to different ladies' personalities. Some ladies might observe that I didn't talk a lot and was quiet, while other ladies might say I talked too much. Not just because they have different ideas about what constitutes "a lot " or "too much," but because I may have felt more compatible with one than the other. And WALDT/CASG applies to the ladies as well. But y'all realize that, probably better than we guys do, and can judge for yourself from the diversity of opinion expressed.

Anyway, good luck with the system.

If there is something that surprises a provider about someone, it would be nice for a heads up (and I mean like the guy has a colostomy bag or the client is deaf or in a wheelchair).

And thats the whole point of the threaded references. Each lady can chime in. So some thinks he talks too much and some thinks he talks too little. With ladies giving varying opinions, we can see that it may be just a matter of how the client reacts differently to different people. To those ladies that don't care whether you talk or not, obviously it wouldn't be an issue. Rather just the exchange of information in order to make an informed decision. Obviously in the above scenario the client isn't a danger simply because one provider didn't like him because he talked too much but that provider may have given him a "thumbs down". Without the "rest of the story" some ladies may have passed him up.

***DISCLAIMER: I have never personally seen grtrader and have no clue how he is BCD. I do enjoy discussions with him and he was used only as an example. Sorry if I offended you trader or gave anyone the wrong impression.

-- if somebody was just absolutely incompetent in bed, so the next lady would be prepared. But that would be, maybe, the bottom 5% Originally Posted by Chevalier

Damn!! I hate being in that 5%.

LMAO.. and my apologies to Gina for taking the thread of track. I think she does a wonderful job and P411 is a great resource.

I think it would be an advantage to have hobbiest reviews. Maybe just where the verified providers and the reviewed hobbiest could see. It might help the providers stay safe and have a better idea of who and what to expect. imho

Damn!! I hate being in that 5%. Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

Don't give up hope. It took me years and years of hard work and practice, but I finally "raised my game" and now rank somewhere around the 12th percentile. On a good day, anyway. You can too!

We may not care about performance but we do care about. . . Originally Posted by TxBrandy

Very excellent points in this thread, and as I already stated earlier I hope WE DO expand the information exchange on this board to include some format for hobbyist reviews and client descriptions. If there are gents worries about that, as said before, show up with the proper fee in the white envelope, don't smell like a goat, and don't be an ASS CLOWN, and you have nothing to fear.

Brandy, I would hope you and other provider's WOULD care about performance and discuss it. Not everyone can be the "God in Bed" that Anon is. . .





. . .but, I am sure most gents are fine, and I would tend to think that discussions of the strawberry versus chocolate would be beneficial to you.

After all, all things being equal, if you can get the same white envelope, from a clean and polite gent that is punctual and concise in communication, why not also pursue the BFE where you can get paid to get your rocks off several times by a guy that you have better chemistry with?

The male equivalent would be finding a UTR that is cute, charming, and gives the BBBJ of a lifetime by not only swallowing you whole, but slobbers, gobbles, and swallows with a smile on her face while giving you that sly, sleazy yet demure, "Thank you may I have another. . ."

I am all in favor of info that leads to enhanced chemistry.

Oh hey, if a lady want to give a shout out about how well a person performs then that's great and I certainly wouldn't want to censor that. However, for us (well most of us), it's not a "deal breaker" and I don't think it's necessary in deciding whether to see a client or not. A lady can give her opinion as long as everyone understands it's just that... an OPINION and YMMV applies as well. I would be more interested in the facts rather than how well or how bad a client performs DATY according to them.

you take the time to say thanks and appreciate this guy. Rather than a review next time you see him give him an extra 10-15 minutes of your time. Not as a payoff but knowing that this man finds you sexually attractive, enjoys your personality and treasures every minute spent with you giving him a few extra moments of your time is probably the gestures he would appreciate most. While a gift card, positive review and kind words all would be nice an incredible blowjob, a soft massage, a heated makeout session or just some great conversation im sure would be most well received.

This weekend started off really shitty. I was shorted 40 bucks by hobbyist X. Then I received a bunch of hate mail. I was beginning to hate men.

But then I saw hobbyist Y. He was punctual, nice to talk to, a great lover, and a sweet man. He made me feel good about myself. He didn't push the menu and he left me a nice tip.

I want to sing this mans praises to the world. But, as a provider, I need to safeguard his identity. It is no one's business that he came to see me.

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However, mister (you know who you are) I want to thank you for making my weekend. I hope only good things come your way. I hope that life is as generous to you as you were to me....

If you ever need a referral, I will NOT give you an "ok"..... I will give you an "excellent"!!!! Originally Posted by brittanylennox

you take the time to say thanks and appreciate this guy. Rather than a review next time you see him give him an extra 10-15 minutes of your time. Not as a payoff but knowing that this man finds you sexually attractive, enjoys your personality and treasures every minute spent with you giving him a few extra moments of your time is probably the gestures he would appreciate most. While a gift card, positive review and kind words all would be nice an incredible blowjob, a soft massage, a heated makeout session or just some great conversation im sure would be most well received. Originally Posted by petiteassman

Or do all of the above