Not sure what the future of ECCIE is....it seems the Attorney General is mostly concerned with HUMAN TRAFFIKING. Don't think much of that goes on here. OF COURSE....if the pimps have tapped into a way of signing up their girls to ECCIE....we could be in trouble.
Hugs,
GwenDillon
- guest013011-2
- 10-19-2010, 09:49 AM
- GingerB
- 10-19-2010, 09:53 AM
It was bad enough that most all of the gals and guys on CL came over to ECCIE. Now we have to deal with BP folks? Aaaarrrrgh !!
I've seen a major change in the "quality" of both clients and escorts (just take a look at the garbage being posted on Provider Ad's Forum) since CL shut down.
A big change for me....is that it seems many more clients requesting appts....are either ASKING FOR A DISCOUNT.....and/or...they have no memberships to P411 or other screening sites....nor do they have references. I am relating this to the CL people....coming over to ECCIE.
Sorry if I offended anyone....and perhaps there are a few CL people who have bit of class.
I'm just venting....and adding my 2 cents.
xxoo !!
GingerB
I've seen a major change in the "quality" of both clients and escorts (just take a look at the garbage being posted on Provider Ad's Forum) since CL shut down.
A big change for me....is that it seems many more clients requesting appts....are either ASKING FOR A DISCOUNT.....and/or...they have no memberships to P411 or other screening sites....nor do they have references. I am relating this to the CL people....coming over to ECCIE.
Sorry if I offended anyone....and perhaps there are a few CL people who have bit of class.
I'm just venting....and adding my 2 cents.
xxoo !!
GingerB
- TinMan
- 10-19-2010, 10:05 AM
I believe it is in the best interests of Eccie's owners to find ways to limit its exposure to the types of enterprises that are being targeted. I hope they are doing so.
- Guest022712-3
- 10-19-2010, 11:21 AM
It was bad enough that most all of the gals and guys on CL came over to ECCIE. Now we have to deal with BP folks? Aaaarrrrgh !!Here--- take your 2 cents back.
I've seen a major change in the "quality" of both clients and escorts (just take a look at the garbage being posted on Provider Ad's Forum) since CL shut down.
A big change for me....is that it seems many more clients requesting appts....are either ASKING FOR A DISCOUNT.....and/or...they have no memberships to P411 or other screening sites....nor do they have references. I am relating this to the CL people....coming over to ECCIE.
Sorry if I offended anyone....and perhaps there are a few CL people who have bit of class.
I'm just venting....and adding my 2 cents.
xxoo !!
GingerB Originally Posted by GingerB
Are we REALLY going to revisit the "hiearchy of ho's"? I don't care if you are a girl down working the track or a $1000/hour courtesan. You can call yourself what you want, brand yourself however you want--but in the end it all comes down to the same thing. $5 streetwalker and $1000/hr HDH alike are both booked for the same charge if in the wrong place at the wrong time. $5 streetwalker and $1000/hr HDH can both find themselves in the morgue if they happen upon the wrong person.
The girls in the ad section who advertise as though they are still on BP or CL have their place, like it or not. There are plenty of guys who won't see them, but there are plenty who will. The ones who aren't worth being with will weed themselves out relatively quickly. Word spreads fast-- at least with everyone in one place, its easier to keep track of the "problem children".
In the end-- take care of your own business. If you truly feel they are that "beneath" you, then they really shouldn't be any issue worth venting over to you.
- TheBizzer
- 10-19-2010, 11:34 AM
- GingerB
- 10-19-2010, 01:53 PM
...."You can call yourself what you want, brand yourself however you want--but in the end it all comes down to the same thing. $5 streetwalker and $1000/hr HDH alike are both booked for the same charge if in the wrong place at the wrong time. $5 streetwalker and $1000/hr HDH can both find themselves in the morgue if they happen upon the wrong person." Originally Posted by DecemberLove
December Love - I respect that you have the right to your opinion.
I do want to make a point however. I don't hang with street walkers. Never have....never will. Not that they are bad people...it is just not the lifestyle I desire. Your view of ....as you say "hierarchy of hos"....is very brash indeed. We girls who charge in the mid to upper level range do so because of the clients we attract. I seriously doubt any of us will wind up in the MORGE. Call it mature screening....or intuition.
The street walkers are much more likely to run into a bad situation.
My last post was that I was venting. I'm concerned because ECCIE is changing....and perhaps not in a good way. I credit this to CL folks flooding in.
Yes - we all have our right to be here. I am just sad that if ECCIE deteriorates for whatever reasons....some GOOD people may decide to find another board.
The business and interactions that I am experiencing lately....are NOT of the usual and dedicated ECCIE members.
Now, back to the point of this thread. The thought that the "bad" CL or BP people are moving to Eccie is frightening. I totally agree with TINMAN...in that hopefully securities are put into place to protect the current "umbrella" that we so love here at ECCIE.
Cheers to all,
GingerB
- Guest022712-3
- 10-19-2010, 02:34 PM
Ginger B--
I'm going to reiterate that your rate will not keep you out of the morgue. One of my closest friends up in Ohio was a 3hr minimum, 800/hr girl. Screened heavily, etc.etc.etc. She was murdered by a client. I don't "hang out" with streetwalkers either. In fact, I seldom hang out with anybody in this field. I think I can count every lady that I've met in DFW and spoke to for longer than 10 minutes on one hand.
I'm a very blunt individual. You can call it brashness, but I call it like I see it. I have been in this business on and off for 10 years now. I've charged higher rates, and lower rates and trust me-- jerks and assholes exist at all income levels. What you charge will not necessarily keep you safe. Screening won't necessarily keep you safe. Are your risks lesser than that of a girl on the street? Of course--- but lets not pretend that we don't all play the same game, just on a different field. We all know the risks when we decide to play this game, some of us are just remiss to admit it.
You aren't the first person to be overly critical of those who choose to operate their business in a different way from you. And you tend to make assumptions. There are plenty of highly reviewed and respected ECCIE ladies that actually get the majority of their clients from BP and formerly from CL. I personally have never advertised on CL. Tried BP once, but found that is wasn't suitable for me. I prefer to gain my clients by flashing my brain rather than my skin.
Now-- as for the topic. The people to be worried about aren't those coming from BP. Most of the bad element from there aren't smart enough to keep from weeding themselves out quickly. Its the bad element that is already here, and has been here for months and managed not to be discovered as such. Those are the most concerning to me.
I'm going to reiterate that your rate will not keep you out of the morgue. One of my closest friends up in Ohio was a 3hr minimum, 800/hr girl. Screened heavily, etc.etc.etc. She was murdered by a client. I don't "hang out" with streetwalkers either. In fact, I seldom hang out with anybody in this field. I think I can count every lady that I've met in DFW and spoke to for longer than 10 minutes on one hand.
I'm a very blunt individual. You can call it brashness, but I call it like I see it. I have been in this business on and off for 10 years now. I've charged higher rates, and lower rates and trust me-- jerks and assholes exist at all income levels. What you charge will not necessarily keep you safe. Screening won't necessarily keep you safe. Are your risks lesser than that of a girl on the street? Of course--- but lets not pretend that we don't all play the same game, just on a different field. We all know the risks when we decide to play this game, some of us are just remiss to admit it.
You aren't the first person to be overly critical of those who choose to operate their business in a different way from you. And you tend to make assumptions. There are plenty of highly reviewed and respected ECCIE ladies that actually get the majority of their clients from BP and formerly from CL. I personally have never advertised on CL. Tried BP once, but found that is wasn't suitable for me. I prefer to gain my clients by flashing my brain rather than my skin.
Now-- as for the topic. The people to be worried about aren't those coming from BP. Most of the bad element from there aren't smart enough to keep from weeding themselves out quickly. Its the bad element that is already here, and has been here for months and managed not to be discovered as such. Those are the most concerning to me.