What is the definition of BFE?

Most of the stuff in ANONONE's reply are common sense things for me and I would hope for most.

The only one I cant bank on is music. Unless your taste in music matches, that could be a deal breaker.....or really an unrealistic expectation song by song of a lady you are paying to see. Maybe if its "You gotta have a J-O-B, if you wanna be with me” perhaps.....

Id rather hear her dirty talk, moans, or the body echoes and vibrations of rhythm hidden in her denims type music her body makes over any recording artist anyday. Music at certain levels of volume during sex can be a easy cop out for the unimaginative.

Anyone up for SO experience?


Him --- Burping, farting, scratching his crotch and ass, ogling other ladies, forgetting his manners while with her, not listening to her, throw his clothes on the floor so she can pick them up, going to sleep as soon as he's popped, either pee all over the seat or leave the seat up after peed all over.

Her --- saying those endearing words --- “not tonight, I have a headache”, “I just started my period”, “okay, just hurry and finish”, “we need to talk”, “you never help out around here”, “we never go anywhere”, “put the seat down”. Seeing her in that comfy “house coat”. Her feet adorned by those special Dearfoams that look like bears.

Sooooo, finally making that special date. Taking her out to eat to that 5-star buffet - Golden Corral. She wears the jogging suit she bought 5 years ago, Crocs adorning her feet, asks a question when his mouth is full, hits him when he leans over to stare at the waitresses ass, tits...complains that he blew his nose in the linen napkin, glares at him while he's staring at the lady at the next table. She spends the entire time talking to her friend on her cell.



Back to the bfe -

Ladies, if a hobbiest truly gives you a wonderful bfe, be honest. Wouldn't it scare you? Originally Posted by am-a-pleaser

What kind of people are you guys dating?

What kind of people are you guys dating? Originally Posted by China Doll

What? No one for the SO experience?

Now gfe/bfe ---

That's why many of us we see ladies here. Guys are fairly simple and the ladies know how to please us. Some get so much more than they could ever dream of. Ladies are more complicated. Most ladies enjoy a bfe. Mutual respect, courtesy, effort that goes into making that first impression by both people. Even when the bcd time is more of pse, both people can thoroughly enjoy themselves.

I always know when our enjoyment has been mutual. I also know when the lady has a better time than normal.

Gfe / bfe isn't just a list of things, but rather an attitude and treatment of each other that's focused on making the other's time the absolute best. Leaving each other's company with the regret it couldn't last just a little longer. Wishing all experiences were like that.

Isn't it kinda odd that there is not alot of dissagreement on BFE yet the GFE thread was a blow up. HMMM?

Isn't it kinda odd that there is not alot of dissagreement on BFE yet the GFE thread was a blow up. HMMM? Originally Posted by burkalini

Why is it odd that the topic with less variation in opinion is the one that didn't lead to animosity? Am I missing some kind of joke here?

Why is it odd that the topic with less variation in opinion is the one that didn't lead to animosity? Am I missing some kind of joke here? Originally Posted by China Doll

Why is it there more animosity when the hobbyist voice their opinion than when the providers do. Like these 2 polls show. Don't get me wrong I have no dissagreement with your statement.

Why is it there more animosity when the hobbyist voice their opinion than when the providers do. Like these 2 polls show. Don't get me wrong I have no dissagreement with your statement. Originally Posted by burkalini

Well, this isn't really a fair comparison, considering that there is less variation in the opinions stated. There are fewer things to disagree about.

However, even if the disagreement levels were the same, the situation is very different; one topic is much more easily perceived as telling people what to do with their bodies.

Well, this isn't really a fair comparison, considering that there is less variation in the opinions stated. There are fewer things to disagree about.

However, even if the disagreement levels were the same, the situation is very different; one topic is much more easily perceived as telling people what to do with their bodies. Originally Posted by China Doll

Maybe your right in the perception remark. But it wasn't meant to be anything other than opinion but based on the feedback alot of people took it personally. That's the difference I was talking about

So what we need here then is an opposing opinion to keep it interesting?! Like... a hobbyist or provider to tactfully suggest that a true BFE is based solely on activities/acronyms. Show up to the "date" dressed appropriately in a man-kini (banana hammock). Have on hand any and all types of protection like dental dams etc. AND!!! Lets not forget the circa 1988 full body condom from "The Naked Gun"

Well I had a guy once show up with rubber gloves, and it was a total turn off. He is like that with every provider he sees and has never changed. He will not even touch your boob without a glove on, nor let you give him a hand job without a cover. I would never repeat, and that is a big NO for "Would you recommend?"

Still, he has plenty of ladies willing to deal with it and he is cheap on top of it....keep him! If I wanted to be treated like a bigger germ farm than that monkey in "Outbreak" I would admit myself into ER.

Still, he has plenty of ladies willing to deal with it and he is cheap on top of it....keep him! I Originally Posted by London Rayne

I think this is simply indicative of the reality that for a lot of girls, - not all, but a lot - this is simply a business. No more, no less.

OMG London! That is a great story! I would think that a major germaphobe would find a different way to spend his time and money... but we all have our reasons, I guess.

So my guess then, is that you would NOT consider rubber gloves and covered breast fondling (CBF~new acronym) to be a true BFE?

I am making a mental note for your tour through upstate lol

No, a guy who uses a ziploc bag to go down on me, would be a bit annoying and not a BFE lol. You wanted contradictons so you got em. I mean he is not forced to touch me AT ALL mind you, but if you're gonna do it....do it right or don't bother.

For the record, my GFE means the guy plays a part. Touching, kissing, daty, etc. If he does not, then he pays for a PSE. I mean seriously, if the whole time is spent by me servicing him, how is that GFE? It's NOT! Now I will gladly do it, but he will be paying extra lmao. You want GFE then act like it. Don't just pretend you do to get the lower rate, and only allow the girl a 2 second water break in 2 hours.

Ok sooooo my math may be wrong here... but it leads to a question lol

A guy just laying there and you doing all the work = Higher PSE rate
A guy interacting with you for mutual pleasure = Lower GFE rate
It seems the more interactive the guy is the lower the rate

So at what level of interaction would it only be appropriate for the guy to receive at least a tip?

If you lay there and HE does ALL the work?

Maybe I am on the wrong side of this business hahaha... how do I become a verified provider? lol

Nice try buddy! Your break down is right though, but it's never less than 4. An off the clock dinner might be thrown in if he's REALLY good.