All the candidates are like Trump. For any of us to have a stout belief in any one of them makes us nothing but chumps, lol.
Jim Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin
You got that right!that, unfortunately, is how it's been for far too long in the Country, you vote for the least worse candidate offered. sometimes crossing your party line to do it. I've never voted democrat in any election, ever. and i'm not likely to start now. but i can't say that until i know who the nominees are.
I hardly see how anyone could vote for any of these people without feeling guilty or foolish, and equally difficult to understand how anybody could support any of the two major party's candidates with fervor.
So, I imagine it will be, for most people, all about voting for whomever you perceive as the less bad of two wholly unsuitable choices, according to what your ideological bent may be.
Or just say "fuck you" to the two major parties and vote for the Libertarian. Especially if you vote in a state that's not in play. Originally Posted by Ex-CEO
many things Trump says are correct in my opinion, like illegal immigration and trade. in some things he's really a liberal at heart and it shows like his comments on abortion. one of his problems is that even when he says things that are correct, about issues facing the country, he does it in such a way that it's incendiary and turns off many voters.
let's say Trump and Clinton are the major party nominees .. if so then this will be by far the strongest evidence of people voting for Candidate A to vote against Candidate B, and vice versa. EVER.
who would i vote for in that scenario? Trump. not even a choice to consider there. Clinton MUST NOT become President. the Clinton gang, her, Slick Willie Blythe and that bastard bitch of a daughter are criminals.
now let's say it's Cruz and Sanders. which is a real possibility given Clinton's high likelihood of being forced out of the race if she's indicted many politico's and not all conservative, many liberal's as well are calling for her to end her campaign over this. she won't of course because that bitch is even more arrogant and narcissistic than Trump. While Cruz has basically the exact same stance on illegal immigration as Trump, he's a religious nut. he'd do whatever he could to outlaw all abortions, for any reason. including forcible rape and risk of the mother's life. that is absolutely sick.
Cruz claims he's an "outsider". HA!. he's got his head up Goldman Sach's asshole. why is that not illegal he didn't disclose that loan? anyway, while Sanders would probably give every illegal in this Country amnesty, without any penalty for it at all .. and he's a socialist, if it was Cruz v Sanders i'd actually consider Sanders. normally i wouldn't waste 5 seconds on that but in this case i would.
one thing about Trump is that for a man that claims he's such a sharp businessman, he's a political novice and it shows. Cruz is out-maneuvering him on the ground. Trump didn't bother to get the right people on his team that know how elections are won, and how the delegate process works. His is trying to do that now, but it might be too late. He's likely caused himself to lose at a brokered convention, and he really has no one to blame but himself. he should have brought in top notch politicos from the start and he might have avoided a brokered convention. at the least, he would have avoided having Cruz "planting" delegates from Louisiana and Tennessee and who knows where else that will turn on Trump after the first ballot.
Trump, win or lose at the convention or the general election, is doing one thing that is absolutely needed in this country. He's exposing the money behind typical politicians.
Unless you have the kind of money he has, and Perot did, you can't run a campaign without taking PAC money. which means you are beholden to that money. you'll do what they tell you to do. if you don't, you'll be a "one-and-done". they'll take their dollars elsewhere next election cycle and unless your approval ratings are sky-high you'll get "out-monied" next election.
Sanders is also exposing this. but this isn't anything anyone should find shocking. it's been there in our faces for decades if not even longer. i'm sure we all know that, in the late 19th century, the three richest men in the Nation, J.P. Morgan, John Rockefeller and Andrew Carnegie, flat-out bought the Presidency. they conspired to prevent William Jennings Bryan from winning the election. of course Carnegie in a later national election broke ranks with Morgan and Rockefeller and aligned with Bryan. no honor among thieves eh?
