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One can't goof around because the wanna be MODs didn't say you could. Ignore them bro. The ladies know who you are and that matters.
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Chica Chaser let me remind there are guidelines you are abusing here. Originally Posted by iggy
That I'M abusing?
This should be good. Take it away Sir, you have the floor.
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One can't goof around because the wanna be MODs didn't say you could. Ignore them bro. The ladies know who you are and that matters. Originally Posted by TreeBark
I notice you didn't bother to answer or more aptly, directly ignored the question...."why the multiple handles...what purpose does it serve?" As for your other shill handle, again...why do the mods ignore it?
You guys say you want to talk about the girls...but then play this retarded fucking game? Your brain tumor is beyond medical assistance, no doubt.




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Against my better judgment I have to post on this thread in regards to TB's post about IP addresses and device information. TL;DR TB’s suggestion to use the “IP check tool” isn’t a very good argument, technical details to follow.

He did get the IP address bit correct. Most people get 1 public IP address for their house (and most people will only get 1 for the network they are on at work). To get more than 1 device online you install a router to hand out local IP addresses, but anything outside your network (like websites) will see all of these devices using the same public IP address. As Loki said all one has to do is hop onto another network (whether it’s a hotspot like McDonald's or on a cellular network) and you get a new public IP address.

TB mentions device details. Websites can only see limited information about a device. Basically, all they see is what is called an agent string which contains information about a device's operating system and web browser (and sometimes what type of device like iPad or iPhone). The problem with this is similar devices using the same web browser will have the same agent string. Conversely, a device visiting a site with 2 different web browsers (like say google chrome and safari) will have 2 different agent strings.

So how does this apply to this argument? Well, unfortunately TB, while being technically correct in his information is also wrong in his argument. As Loki said, there are IP spoofing applications out there (usually using a proxy service) but the easiest way to swap IPs is to jump on another network. It is easy to get a new agent string by using a different device, or by using a different web browser. A more advanced technique actually allows you to alter the agent string your browser sends to be whatever you want, so an iPad running safari can appear to be a windows laptop running internet explorer 8 pretty easily.

Now, that is quite a lot of work to spoof the filters that this site runs, but if one really wanted to have multiple handles it isn’t that hard to do. So running this “IP Check tool” can easily be fooled by someone with enough reason to put in the work, sorry TB if you are really not the same person will a ton of handles you are going to have to find another way to prove it.
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Thanks for your input. The agent string, I didn't know what it was called technically, I do now.
This stuff is too technical for me though. I can barely change the ink cartridge in my color printer without breaking a sweat resetting or cleaning the heads!!



Against my better judgment I have to post on this thread in regards to TB's post about IP addresses and device information. TL;DR TB’s suggestion to use the “IP check tool” isn’t a very good argument, technical details to follow.

He did get the IP address bit correct. Most people get 1 public IP address for their house (and most people will only get 1 for the network they are on at work). To get more than 1 device online you install a router to hand out local IP addresses, but anything outside your network (like websites) will see all of these devices using the same public IP address. As Loki said all one has to do is hop onto another network (whether it’s a hotspot like McDonald's or on a cellular network) and you get a new public IP address.

TB mentions device details. Websites can only see limited information about a device. Basically, all they see is what is called an agent string which contains information about a device's operating system and web browser (and sometimes what type of device like iPad or iPhone). The problem with this is similar devices using the same web browser will have the same agent string. Conversely, a device visiting a site with 2 different web browsers (like say google chrome and safari) will have 2 different agent strings.

So how does this apply to this argument? Well, unfortunately TB, while being technically correct in his information is also wrong in his argument. As Loki said, there are IP spoofing applications out there (usually using a proxy service) but the easiest way to swap IPs is to jump on another network. It is easy to get a new agent string by using a different device, or by using a different web browser. A more advanced technique actually allows you to alter the agent string your browser sends to be whatever you want, so an iPad running safari can appear to be a windows laptop running internet explorer 8 pretty easily.

Now, that is quite a lot of work to spoof the filters that this site runs, but if one really wanted to have multiple handles it isn’t that hard to do. So running this “IP Check tool” can easily be fooled by someone with enough reason to put in the work, sorry TB if you are really not the same person will a ton of handles you are going to have to find another way to prove it. Originally Posted by NerdLove
I am done
Please close this thread entitled after my handle
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Thanks for your input. The agent string, I didn't know what it was called technically, I do now.
This stuff is too technical for me though. I can barely change the ink cartridge in my color printer without breaking a sweat resetting or cleaning the heads!! Originally Posted by TreeBark
Don't feel bad, printers are by far the most confusing and tempermental pieces of equipment anyone in the IT field ever has to deal with. They each have a mind of their own and none of them behaves the same.
Don't feel bad, printers are by far the most confusing and tempermental pieces of equipment anyone in the IT field ever has to deal with. They each have a mind of their own and none of them behaves the same. Originally Posted by NerdLove
Haha to true. The old fax machines are right up there. PC load letter what the hell is that?
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Don't feel bad, printers are by far the most confusing and tempermental pieces of equipment anyone in the IT field ever has to deal with. They each have a mind of their own and none of them behaves the same. Originally Posted by NerdLove
I use to love fixing printers.
but most printers now are a it breaks out of warranty
shit can it not worth fixing
so now I'm in another line of work
took a buy out just before the lay offs

still got my HP IIIP working
but about to run out of parts
no loner supported by current Microshaft errr ops Microsoft OS's
My current OS keeps undoing my fix so the old printer understands what is being sent to it.
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