21 Reasons why Obama will have a better legacy than Reagan.

Reagan was the leader of the FREE WORLD... Oloser is the Ozombie leader but at least you scumbags have a leader.

Look here pal- all I am saying is that other POTUS have had their faults- I is not ever said Obama is perfect, but you guys want him to fail and that is so sad. FYI, I was a Reagan Democrat, but I know Reagan had his faults and he wasn't nearly as great as the Pedestal the GOP would like to place him on- but nevertheless, I know Reagan and if he were alive today he would be embarrassed of the mockery of what was once a great and trustworthy political party. Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

Not certain about Reagan being ashamed of republicans but I am certain he would be ashamed of the office he once held.
Also about Afghanistan........can you say Charlie Wilson ?
I am not dogging what Wilson spearheaded but to accredit all of the cons of arming the Afghanistans to Reagan is inaccurate.

The single biggest reason Obama has no chance at a greater legacy than Ronald Reagan is the American people love Ronald Reagan and the reason is they know Reagan loved America

The single biggest reason Is because Ronald Reagan traded arms for hostages. Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

FIFY

WE, as usual, you want to build up Obama by tearing down Reagan. That doesn't work. You ignore the fact that Obama armed the Mexican drug cartels, which included getting at least one American killed. You ignore that Obama armed ISIS. You ignore all of Obama's corrupt deals and actions. Obama need not be compared to Reagan. I am not a Reagan supporter. But Obama will fall under the weight of his own lies. They are many. Once the novelty of having an African-American president has worn off, and history is able to judge him objectively, he will be at or near the bottom when it comes to effective and honest presidents. He's not that good. He's not that smart. Deal with it.

Wait,wait,wait...........
There is a 22nd reason, they found one more reason............

(22) Obama likes the taste of Putin and Radical Islamic Dick !

Now there's some fucking legacy for the commie bastard.

Not certain about Reagan being ashamed of republicans but I am certain he would be ashamed of the office he once held.
Also about Afghanistan........can you say Charlie Wilson ?
I am not dogging what Wilson spearheaded but to accredit all of the cons of arming the Afghanistans to Reagan is inaccurate. Originally Posted by rioseco

good point about Charlie Wilson. anyone seen "Charlie Wilson's War" ? i haven't but i may look it up and get it on DVD.

And yes, Reagan, a patriot who truly believed in America as the founding father's envisioned it, would despise the mockery Obama has made of the Presidency today.

Anyone here who even thinks Vladdy Putin would dare to challenge a firm leader like Reagan is an idiot. just ask Mikhail Gorbachev how underestimating Reagan turned out. case closed.

WE, as usual, you want to build up Obama by tearing down Reagan. That doesn't work. You ignore the fact that Obama armed the Mexican drug cartels, which included getting at least one American killed. You ignore that Obama armed ISIS. You ignore all of Obama's corrupt deals and actions. Obama need not be compared to Reagan. I am not a Reagan supporter. But Obama will fall under the weight of his own lies. They are many. Once the novelty of having an African-American president has worn off, and history is able to judge him objectively, he will be at or near the bottom when it comes to effective and honest presidents. He's not that good. He's not that smart. Deal with it. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

umm, everything COG and this .. WE, even if your IQ was as large as you say your wanker is, you'd still be classified as "low grade moron".

as has been noted in this thread before, the true legacy of any President is a function of time. to "immediately" try to equate Obammy with Reagan before he has even left office is stupid, but that's your style yeah?

remember who was the first person to post here that Obama is the ultimate example of a Manchurian Candidate? why .. that would .. ME.

i hope he's only a half Manchurian Candidate, meaning he's only a closet socialist. if he's a full Monty Manchurian Candidate, we are in DEEP SHIT.

given Obama's outright and known disdain for the US Constitution, is it plausible he may try to subvert the political system and remain in office past 2016? Yes .. it IS.

And i want him to try it. Yes.. i really do. because it is my firm belief that despite all this stuff you may see on the Internet about Obama requiring the Military to sign so-called "Oaths of Fealty" to Obama directly, i discount it.

And even if they did, there is an old adage ...

"Schemers are ever the easiest to deceive, simply tell them what they want to hear"

the US Military will NEVER allow a President to subvert the Constitution. Won't happen. PERIOD.

and by the way the libtards accused Bush of the same thing, which clearly didn't happen. if it had, then Georgie bin Bush would been hanged for Treason from the Washington Monument. and if Obama dares try it in any way, false flag ops, racial discord (which his absolute RACIST administration and AG Holder clearly are attempting to do), they won't succeed.

the FIRST and LAST bastion of US Freedom and the Constitution is the US Military.

You know what coming next ... strike up the bands ... oh yes ... !!



dedicated to CPO Chris Kyle. American HERO.



To all the jarheads i partied with from San Diego to Haifa Israel and parts in between ...



The Air Force ..



Let's not forget the Coast Guard ..



The Army ..



So go ahead WE, keep slamming Reagan, an AMERICAN LEADER. go ahead ..

Just try.

I hear a lot of you Obama haters constantly say how bad a POTUS he is and you guys love to state how great Ronald Reagan was as POTUS. Both Obama and Reagan faced somewhat similar hardships when they took office(economy, Terrorism, UE,etc) , but lets take a look of things the GOP won't mention about their last "great" President.

1. Reagan supplied weapons to our enemies


Reagan armed Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war despite the fact that it was widely known Iraq was using chemical weapons in violation of International law.
http://middleeast.about.com/od/thisd...in-Halabja.htm


2. Reagan ignored the atrocities committed by Saddam Hussein,


When the whole world condemned Saddam Hussein for using chemical weapons to kill 5000 of his own citizens in Iraq, the Reagan administration continued to provide weapons and tactical information to Iraq which Iraq used to target their enemies with chemical weapons. Reagan vetoed a UN resolution condemning Iraq. http://www.foreignpolicy.com/article...he_gassed_iran


3. Reagan illegally supplied arms to both sides in the Iran-Iraq War.


Reagan armed Iran during the Iran-Iraq war in direct violation of a U.S. law that he had signed. http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1889.html


4. Reagan caved in to the demands of terrorists.


He provided weapons to Iran in exchange for the release of 7 American hostages in Lebanon, but ultimately more hostages were taken. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexpe...e/reagan-iran/


5. Reagan caved in to the demands of terrorists again


After Reagan sent Marines to Beirut for a peacekeeping mission, a terrorist’s truck bomb killed 241 U.S. Marines. Reagan responded by immediately doing exactly what the terrorists wanted and pulled all the troops out of Beirut. http://middleeast.about.com/od/usmid...e081026d_2.htm


6. Reagan was weak in the war on terrorism.


After the bombing of Beirut, Reagan promised to track down and punish the terrorists who committed that horrible act. He never followed up on that promise.


7. Reagan didn't even obey his own laws.

1.Reagan illegally supplied weapons to Nicaraguan rebels in violation of a law that he himself had signed.
http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1889.html



8. Reagan supported the violent overthrow of a democratically elected government.


President Reagan illegally supported the Nicaraguan Contras, who he called “Freedom Fighters” even though they killed civilians and wanted to restore the dictatorship that previously existed in Nicaragua.


9. Reagan started an unnecessary war to take attention away from his failure in Beirut


Just days after the bombing that killed 241 Marines in Beirut, Reagan launched an attack on the island of Grenada to remove Cuban soldiers there. This successfully took attention away from the devastating loss of those Marines in Beirut.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexpe...eagan-grenada/


10. Reagan failed to defend us from Saddam Hussein.


When an Iraqi fighter jet fired a missile into a U.S. Navy ship in 1987, killing 37 men, Reagan did nothing in response to the attack. Iraq is still the only country to attack a U.S. warship without retaliation.


11. Reagan helped create Al Qaeda


The Reagan administration armed and supported the Mujahedeen rebels in Afghanistan, who later became the terrorist organization, Al Qaeda.


12. Reagan supported the racist Apartheid government in South Africa.


When the white minority in South Africa (just 10% of the population) brutally repressed the black majority, even denying them the right to vote, the U.S. Congress overwhelmingly passed the Anti-Apartheid Act of 1986 to apply pressure to South Africa to end Apartheid. President Reagan opposed any sanctions on South Africa and vetoed that bill. Congress was forced to override his veto.
http://usforeignpolicy.about.com/od/...-Sanctions.htm


13. Reagan supported the most brutal dictators in the world as long as he didn't consider them “Communists”.


He supported Panamanian dictator Manuel Noriega. Later, when Noriega became too close with Fidel Castro, we suddenly considered him an enemy and removed him from power.

Reagan supported Saddam Hussein when he committed the most brutal atrocities on Earth, killing thousands of his own people. Years later, when Saddam threatened our oil supply, we used these same atrocities as reasons to go to war with him.

Reagan supported Philippine dictator Ferdinand Marcos even after Marcos killed his political rival and rigged his own reelection.

Reagan supported the brutal regime in El Salvador when it was widely known that they were killing civilians, including Americans. After 4 American nuns were murdered by Salvadorian soldiers, Reagan’s Secretary of State defended the Salvadorians suggesting that the nuns might have been shot while trying to run a military roadblock, but this wouldn't explain why they were also raped before they were killed.


14. Reagan’s administration had more documented corruption than any president in U.S. history.


At least 138 Reagan administration officials, including several cabinet members, were investigated, indicted or convicted of crimes. This is the largest number of any US President. Many of them were pardoned by Reagan or President Bush before they could even stand trial. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexpe...e/reagan-iran/
•Secretary of the Interior – Indicted on 41 felonies
•Attorney General – resigned after investigations of corruption
•Secretary of Defense – charged with Iran-Contra crimes and pardoned before going to trial
•Two National Security Advisors – plead guilty to Iran-Contra crimes and pardoned
•Three high ranking CIA officials were convicted and pardoned for Iran-Contra crimes.
•At least 9 Reagan appointees were convicted of perjury, lying to Congress, obstruction of Congress or contempt of Congress.



15. Reagan frequently repeated bald-faced lies even after they were publicly revealed to be untrue.


He told stories about having been a U.S. Army photographer assigned to film Nazi death camps. Reagan never visited or filmed any such camps.

He often told a story about a “Chicago Welfare Queen” who had 80 aliases and gotten $150,000 in welfare. She never existed but they did find one woman who had 2 aliases and received $8,000. Reagan continued to tell the false version of the story.

He claimed that trees create more pollution than automobiles, an absurdly untrue statement that he literally pulled out of thin air.


16. Reagan set new records for Budget deficits.


After criticizing President Carter for having a $50 billion deficit, Reagan’s own deficits exceeded $200 billion. He tripled the national debt in only 8 years. Although Republicans blamed Congress for the budget deficits, all 8 of the budgets passed by Congress had less spending and smaller deficits than the budgets proposed by Reagan.


17. Reagan's economic policies put millions of Americans out of work


When he took office in 1981, unemployment was at 7.5% and dropping. A few months after Reagan’s economic policies took effect, unemployment began to rise again. Millions of people continued to lose their jobs for the next 2 years until unemployment exceeded 10%. It stayed above 10% for nearly a year, peaking at 10.8%. Three years after he was elected, unemployment was still higher than when he was sworn in. http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000





18. Reagan’s policies allowed hundreds of thousands of family farms to go out of business or declare bankruptcy.


By some accounts, nearly 1/3 of all farms were at risk of being foreclosed during the 1980s. Ronald Reagan vetoed a farm credit bill that would have given farmers some relief. Reagan’s popularity among farmers dropped so low that at one point when discussing the exportation of grain to other countries, Reagan joked that he would like to “keep the grain and export the farmers”.
http://www.ruralvotes.com/thebackforty/?p=363


19. Reagan’s financial policies caused the Savings and Loan industry to collapse.


The financial deregulation and changes to the tax code that President Reagan enacted ultimately caused nearly 750 different financial institutions to fail. All of this cost taxpayers about $150 billion.
http://useconomy.about.com/od/Politi...c-Policies.htm


20. Reagan robbed the Social Security trust fund to pay for his budget shortfalls.


After Reagan cut taxes for the rich, the tax revenue to fund the government was so small that the budget deficit grew to 4 times what it was under Jimmy Carter. So Reagan “borrowed” hundreds of billions of dollars from the Social Security trust fund to pay the country’s bills. That money has never been paid back.


21. Reagan largely ignored the AIDS epidemic while tens of thousands of people were dying of the disease.


Many conservatives in the 1980s believed that AIDS was God’s punishment for being gay. Ronald Reagan did not publicly talk about AIDS until the 6th year of his presidency. In 1986, when AIDS fatalities were doubling every year, Reagan proposed cuts in funding for AIDS research. Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

If the only reason Obama will be remembered better than Reagan is because you can come up with 21 reasons why you don't like Reagan, that is really saying a lot guy. Obama, Pelosi, Reed, remind me of the three stooges, Larry, Moe, and Curly Joe. Kind of fun to watch for about 5 minutes, then it just gets dumb!