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be careful and make sure you have an appt set.... because if you dont have an appt she will automatically assume your are hers and if you dont follow thru you could end up being on a SG's do not see list which is about 90% of us on this board!!
Hell Ive never seen her and never had an appt and Im on there now!! Originally Posted by bigdeal

At best, I was your eighth choice. 5 reviews since you were "out of town" for 30 days (your words btw) and then whoever was scheduled and cancelled and then whoever you saw last night. I'm interested in building long term relationships with my clients and I obviously don't interest you enough to actually book me. So, why bring it up on the board? At the rate you are going you probably won't run out of women to see for a good long time and I don't need to be one of them. Im quite content to stay at the bottom of the list, because it is pretty obvious that it isn't me that you wish to see, just another notch.

So a good rule of thumb.....don't contact someone and tell them an easily found out untruth, and if you do contact them again, with two messages of course (and very little notice-six weeks later), and they accept don't be surprised when they decline to become involved you when you make it apparent that you would rather see any number of other people instead.

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And telling me in your final email that I am "very, very stupid" by declining to schedule for another day really just underlines the fact that I was correct to make that decision.

Your dilemma is part of the natural risk of this hobby. The first time, for either party, is a bit of a leap of faith. If you call around, explain your situation, get to know the person a bit on the phone, and don't set off a bunch of creep alarms, you'll find someone. Then be sure that she will let you use her as a reference for the next one.

Get over the shyness and start making some inquiries.

So I have a dilema. I've looked at the P411 and its still asking for more information than I can give out. Complete anonymity is a requirement. Period. I was kinda under the impression that was the way business was supposed to work.

And telling me... I am "very, very stupid" .... Originally Posted by SillyGirl

So it's a matter of degree? I see. If you're very, very stupid that puts you dumber than someone who is merely very stupid, and well below someone who is stupid. So he could be stupid, and the 7 ahead of you could be very stupid and since you are very, very stupid you come in 8th, or 2nd if all of the others were tied for 1st. You are lucky you aren't very, very, very very stupid because then you couldn't read the contact and this would be about providers who don't respond to contacts. And we haven't even gotten into cretins, feebs, dorks and I can hardly wait,...BUT I digress.

So I have a dilema. I've looked at the P411 and its still asking for more information than I can give out. Complete anonymity is a requirement. Period. I was kinda under the impression that was the way business was supposed to work. Originally Posted by WhiteNight

Nothing in life is complete anonymity. This business is about discretion, but us ladies need to know who is walking through our door. You honestly can't expect some of us to allow someone who is unwilling to give us any info on himself to walk into our incall? I know I wouldn't nor would I go to him as an outcall.

You're going to have to give something to get something.

Nothing in life is complete anonymity. This business is about discretion, but us ladies need to know who is walking through our door. You honestly can't expect some of us to allow someone who is unwilling to give us any info on himself to walk into our incall? I know I wouldn't nor would I go to him as an outcall.

You're going to have to give something to get something. Originally Posted by MsElena

I totally understand. Saftey and security is a big part of business. Maybe I'm misunderstanding P411, but I don't think there is any reason for a girl to check my ID, unless there is one that P411 gives for that express purpose. Too much of the wrong type of personal information being shared, if you understand where I'm coming from. You don't use your real identity for business do you?

WN

You give your real identity only to P411. They then approve you to the ladies. The escorts never get your real name or any more information than you want to share with them. And since P411 operates outside of the US, it would be more difficult for law enforcement to get their records.

It is like identity escrow.

Thank you for all your help. I'm feeling a lot more comfortable with P411. I will keep you updated as to how it goes!

I totally understand. Saftey and security is a big part of business. Maybe I'm misunderstanding P411, but I don't think there is any reason for a girl to check my ID, unless there is one that P411 gives for that express purpose. Too much of the wrong type of personal information being shared, if you understand where I'm coming from. You don't use your real identity for business do you?

WN Originally Posted by WhiteNight

No, I don't use my real name. There's no reason for any of the guys to know my real name. My reputation as an honest provider is out there and never questioned.

I'm one of the ladies who checks ID's, I want to make sure the person who shows up at my door is the person I've screened.

You give your real identity only to P411. They then approve you to the ladies. The escorts never get your real name or any more information than you want to share with them. And since P411 operates outside of the US, it would be more difficult for law enforcement to get their records.

It is like identity escrow. Originally Posted by KCQuestor

Actually there's 4 digits that you need to choose for part of your P411 ID that is supposed to match up to an ID you use in real life. I always ask to see the ID that is supposed to match up to the P411 ID you use.

P411 tells the ladies to match up ID's when meeting, but I know A LOT of ladies who don't.

All very good points, MsElena. You have relived many of my concerns. I do hope you don't mind that I am using you as a referal (not a provider reference) for P411.

Actually there's 4 digits that you need to choose for part of your P411 ID that is supposed to match up to an ID you use in real life. I always ask to see the ID that is supposed to match up to the P411 ID you use.

P411 tells the ladies to match up ID's when meeting, but I know A LOT of ladies who don't. Originally Posted by MsElena

Often useless. I've been on P411 long enough that the number I used on my KS CDL has changed twice so it won't match up but I'm still the same person. I'm not the only one that's happened to either.

Jack

Often useless. I've been on P411 long enough that the number I used on my KS CDL has changed twice so it won't match up but I'm still the same person. I'm not the only one that's happened to either.

Jack Originally Posted by ksjack

Then KsJack,
You need to contect P411 and have that part of your id changed.. it only takes a few seconds.
I was very worried about the ID thing tell I talked to the girl at P411 through there online help system. (awsome btw).
after hearing about the reason and knowing it was for everyones safety. I had her change the last four to match my ID.
I also made a cover that slips over my id that will show only my picture, first name and the four digets I used.
And just like when I'm shopping and they ask to see my ID. I thank them because I know that they are tring to protect me.

Often useless. I've been on P411 long enough that the number I used on my KS CDL has changed twice so it won't match up but I'm still the same person. I'm not the only one that's happened to either.

Jack Originally Posted by ksjack

Its useless to you, but not to me. If the ID doesn't match up with the ID used for your P411, then you're not going to see me. I'm speaking in general terms of course.

How do I know your P411 account hasn't been compromised if the ID doesn't match up? There's a reason P411 tells us ladies to check IDs.

I think I have that under control. P411 is set up, but for some reason it doesn't want to take my payment info. I can see with the holidays that everything may be a little behind. I'm gonna try today and if I'm still having problems I will do something else.