Just curious ...

  • BDD
  • 09-09-2013, 05:40 PM

BDD, You made an awesome statement babe! I owe you a drink Originally Posted by SensualSpecialist
Thanks SS. I tend to get my balls busted if I offer anybody a drink or a sandwich on the Boards these days. Somedays it's just tough being me.... SIGH!
heck I guess no cops either.
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Thanks SS. I tend to get my balls busted if I offer anybody a drink or a sandwich on the Boards these days. Somedays it's just tough being me.... SIGH! Originally Posted by BDD
I offered you a drink.. guess if you would like a sandwhich too...
thanks fancy for your input very helpful. I will not be using the new site. Do you Ave promcode promcode?? My sponsor ads are 46.40 a day.
Oh yea? Then why do the higher priced, more exclusive, more sought after providers advertise on eccie and not on bp?

I'll tell you why. They have no need for bp. They can't handle all the requests they get on eccie so why the hell would they PAY MONEY to advertise on bp where out of ten calls you might get lucky and get one good client. From what I hear trying to properly screen a guy from bp is like pulling teeth.

Girls go to bp out of necessity and simply not getting enough clients from eccie. Originally Posted by coolaid

I can tell you HANDS DOWN the bet clientele comes from Eros and P411. There are a couple of reasons.
  1. Eros clients don't know anything about reviews.
  2. Eros don't know anything other than to type the city they are in and escort.
  3. Because Eros clients don't know anything are thrilled to run across a stand up woman that is the lady in the pictures.
  4. P411 guys are scrutinized by the female community.
  5. P411 guys are comfortable with to the "system" associated with the hobby.
  6. P411 guys like the fact that the ladies are scrutinized by the management.
  7. Both sets of guys are significantly less likely to haggle in anyway for whatever reason.
  8. Eros guys can be time wasters though. You have to learn how to judge and deal with that.
  9. Anytime you are a bit slow, upping your advertising on either site bumps your business.
  10. P411 guys are very easy to screen.
  11. On the other hand, Eros guys can be hard to screen.
  12. Both sites let you know where your client found you. When they click through from Eros it says so in the email and so does P411.
  13. Eros has a free system to get you into the What's New section every two weeks which boosts your business.

You have to advertise on different sites for a variety of reasons:
  1. East and West Coast guys use TER. A large portion of them don't know anything about ECCIE.
  2. Eros, BP, P411 and to some extent TER don't have a Men's Locker Room where the hens can tear women to shreds.
  3. P411 is VERY female centric unlike here.
  4. On P411 a woman can limit her exposure to only P411 members. I have several friends that advertise on P411 exclusively for that reason alone.
  5. Google Houston and Escort. The first hit is Backpage. The second hit is Houston Elite Companion. Youtube, the Yellow Pages THEN ECCIE.
  6. Google Escort Women and Backpage then Eros come up. ECCIE is fifth.
  7. Why put all your advertising eggs in one basket.
  8. The more you saturate your name on the Internet the higher it is "viewed" by the search engines.
  9. Some people are going to have a bad taste in their mouth for one escort or another for various reasons.
The best bang for your buck period in advertising is Preferred 411. Eros is a close second. My advertising budget was $550 a month. I stayed as busy as I wanted to, and I hadn't posted an ad on ECCIE, except when traveling, in two years.
thank you for the reminder, I need to put my eros ad back up.
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The truth, of course, is that many "P411 guys" are also "eccie guys." I browse on eccie but book on P411, and I'm sure many eccie members are the same way.

I find the P411 ads to valuable, particularly because they can be updated more frequently. I do wish more ladies advertised there. Based on the views, P411 ads receive much less traffic, but I'm sure that is partly due to a lack of lurkers.

I used to use Eros a lot but these days there are a lot of baits and switch. Not worth the time to weed them out when better options are available.

But, like many others, I'm not a eccie or P411 "guy." I'm just a person who uses various tools at my disposal to find high-quality ladies to see.



I can tell you HANDS DOWN the bet clientele comes from Eros and P411. There are a couple of reasons.
  1. Eros clients don't know anything about reviews.
  2. Eros don't know anything other than to type the city they are in and escort.
  3. Because Eros clients don't know anything are thrilled to run across a stand up woman that is the lady in the pictures.
  4. P411 guys are scrutinized by the female community.
  5. P411 guys are comfortable with to the "system" associated with the hobby.
  6. P411 guys like the fact that the ladies are scrutinized by the management.
  7. Both sets of guys are significantly less likely to haggle in anyway for whatever reason.
  8. Eros guys can be time wasters though. You have to learn how to judge and deal with that.
  9. Anytime you are a bit slow, upping your advertising on either site bumps your business.
  10. P411 guys are very easy to screen.
  11. On the other hand, Eros guys can be hard to screen.
  12. Both sites let you know where your client found you. When they click through from Eros it says so in the email and so does P411.
  13. Eros has a free system to get you into the What's New section every two weeks which boosts your business.

You have to advertise on different sites for a variety of reasons:
  1. East and West Coast guys use TER. A large portion of them don't know anything about ECCIE.
  2. Eros, BP, P411 and to some extent TER don't have a Men's Locker Room where the hens can tear women to shreds.
  3. P411 is VERY female centric unlike here.
  4. On P411 a woman can limit her exposure to only P411 members. I have several friends that advertise on P411 exclusively for that reason alone.
  5. Google Houston and Escort. The first hit is Backpage. The second hit is Houston Elite Companion. Youtube, the Yellow Pages THEN ECCIE.
  6. Google Escort Women and Backpage then Eros come up. ECCIE is fifth.
  7. Why put all your advertising eggs in one basket.
  8. The more you saturate your name on the Internet the higher it is "viewed" by the search engines.
  9. Some people are going to have a bad taste in their mouth for one escort or another for various reasons.
The best bang for your buck period in advertising is Preferred 411. Eros is a close second. My advertising budget was $550 a month. I stayed as busy as I wanted to, and I hadn't posted an ad on ECCIE, except when traveling, in two years. Originally Posted by OliviaHoward
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The truth, of course, is that many "P411 guys" are also "eccie guys." I browse on eccie but book on P411, and I'm sure many eccie members are the same way.

I find the P411 ads to valuable, particularly because they can be updated more frequently. I do wish more ladies advertised there. Based on the views, P411 ads receive much less traffic, but I'm sure that is partly due to a lack of lurkers.

I used to use Eros a lot but these days there are a lot of baits and switch. Not worth the time to weed them out when better options are available.

But, like many others, I'm not a eccie or P411 "guy." I'm just a person who uses various tools at my disposal to find high-quality ladies to see. Originally Posted by RoDunn

With you 100% - Same here.
The truth, of course, is that many "P411 guys" are also "eccie guys." I browse on eccie but book on P411, and I'm sure many eccie members are the same way. Originally Posted by RoDunn
I said the men that use Eros are less likely to know about reviews not men that shop on P411.

I find the P411 ads to valuable, particularly because they can be updated more frequently. I do wish more ladies advertised there. Based on the views, P411 ads receive much less traffic, but I'm sure that is partly due to a lack of lurkers. Originally Posted by RoDunn
I would agree P411 is a very valuable tool. It doesn't get many lurkers because P411 is just a screening and advertising tool, and ECCIE is both of those plus a message and review board. Lurkers are GREAT clients. Lurkers are also far less likely to haggle.


Advertisers are more comfortable with their pictures and advertising on a site that limits it to "screened" clientele.

I used to use Eros a lot but these days there are a lot of baits and switch. Not worth the time to weed them out when better options are available. Originally Posted by RoDunn
I agree. That's why I said this:


Because Eros clients don't know anything are thrilled to run across a stand up woman that is the lady in the pictures. Originally Posted by OliviaHoward
But, like many others, I'm not a eccie or P411 "guy." I'm just a person who uses various tools at my disposal to find high-quality ladies to see. Originally Posted by RoDunn
I of course had not intent to offend you by call you a guy. I also ladies gals.

You'd be surprised at the number of clients that only know about the sites that pop up when you type in the city and escort, and like I said Eros and BP come up on top. Add to that Eros is one of the easiest to use from a client's perspective. From their home page, to the right where you'd expect it, you select the city and what you are looking for. Compare that to ECCIE with it's flashing banners and a million things competing for your attention and you see that it doesn't.

Look, I'm not trying to offend you or sell you something. I am trying to tell the ladies something about what are the best advertising sites.
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I said the men that use Eros are less likely to know about reviews not men that shop on P411.
Originally Posted by OliviaHoward
My only point here was that you said Eros and P411 users were the best clients and I was pointing out that many guys who use eccie also use P411.

Your original post didn't offend me. What you said was tame compared to the generalizations many ladies make each day.

I normally wouldn't comment on something like this, but I do respect your opinion on the subject. I've seen your site and a few of your business advice posts on here, and overall, I think you provide a great deal of insightful business and marketing tips for the ladies.
My only point here was that you said Eros and P411 users were the best clients and I was pointing out that many guys who use eccie also use P411.

Your original post didn't offend me. What you said was tame compared to the generalizations many ladies make each day.

I normally wouldn't comment on something like this, but I do respect your opinion on the subject. I've seen your site and a few of your business advice posts on here, and overall, I think you provide a great deal of insightful business and marketing tips for the ladies. Originally Posted by RoDunn
Yes, there ECCIE guys on P411. They cross advertise. However, if you want to see one of the main differences just look at the memberships / viewerships. ECCIE has almost 180,000 members and P411 around 43,000 members, but I have no way of knowing what percentage are active. Add to that the lurker population (Right now there are 5,700 guests viewing) of ECCIE I'm sure the lurkership is much lower on P411 since the ladies can restrict their profiles to just members. You simply have a much large demographic that utilizes ECCIE so the cross-pollination between P411 and ECCIE clientele mathematically can be nowhere near the same.

The following generalizations about EDCIE clientele is within the aforementioned givens. Clients or potential clients that contact you from ECCIE are far more likely to be hagglers, timewasters and guys that want to "take photos" or give you a "bangin' review" for a free or deeply discounted session. They are also far more likely to be the ones that want to invite you out for a drink and then "assume" you are enjoying off the clock time with them if there is any BCD time.


I'm not trying to sell you something; I'm just trying to tell you something. I am sure you are a standup guy. I'm sure the vast majority of gentlemen that use this board are standup guys. What I am saying is that for whatever reason, and I've listed some below, the better clientele come from P411 and Eros followed closely by TER.
  • The sheer numbers of ECCIE vs P411
  • The female-centricness of P411
  • The verification process of both the advertisers and clientele on P411
  • P411 is not a review site.
  • TER clients in Texas anyway are largely clients that travel for business since it is a much more utilized tool on the East and West Coasts.
  • TER allows the women to read the ROS
I stopped advertising on ECCIE, except for traveling ads, because the uptick in what I would call "problem" calls would coincide with an ad I placed on ECCIE. I felt that as often as I posted, adding my name to the cattle call wasn't necessary. But that's just how it was for me.

I mean no disrespect to ECCIE or those that seek their companionship here. The question was asked why anyone would advertise anywhere but ECCIE. I was just attempting to answer the question from my perspective and experience.