Right now you are paying an American to sit on his/her ass and not paying taxes while s/he burdens social services with his/her needs (educating his/her children, healthcare, unemployment insurance, food stamps, etc.). Originally Posted by I B HankeringActually most of the people on the various social serves are the working poor. People working for companies such as Wal-Mart that increase their profit margin by treating their employees badly. Low pay, no benefits, less than full time employees. Right now in a number of states Wal-Mart employees are the largest single group receiving social services. Add to the fact that Wal-Mart frequently receives tax breaks for locating, plus the fact that Wal-Mart in smaller communities kills off the local eco-system of small businesses.
Actually most of the people on the various social serves are the working poor. People working for companies such as Wal-Mart that increase their profit margin by treating their employees badly. Low pay, no benefits, less than full time employees. Right now in a number of states Wal-Mart employees are the largest single group receiving social services. Add to the fact that Wal-Mart frequently receives tax breaks for locating, plus the fact that Wal-Mart in smaller communities kills off the local eco-system of small businesses. Originally Posted by BigLouieHooray, BL!!! You've touched on one the Dimotards' major policy disconnects!!! Check your economics, BL, anytime there exist a surfeit of any commodity, including labor, its costs are driven down. Check your history, BL, 19th century labor movements, e.g., Samuel Gompers, etc., lobbied for very restrictive immigration policies to prevent the impoverished wages associated with the surfeit of labor. You, BL, cannot legitimately claim you support the interests of low wage earning citizens in the U.S. and simultaneously champion unrestricted immigration policies.
My own personal observations is that far too many Americans choose to be a recipient of welfare INSTEAD of doing low paying manual labor. I certainly don't fault illegal immigrants...I fault the lazy ass Americans that choose not to do hard work and earn they own way! I totally disagree with Jewish Lawyer. Originally Posted by txrancher1My own personal observation of people who inherited the land they ranch on is that they wish everyone would work 80 hours a week for grub and a shitty trailer to sleep in! That way, they can sit on the veranda with their fancy women and sip mint juleps while the straw boss whips the indentured servants, and rake in huge profits.
My own personal observation of people who inherited the land they ranch on is that they wish everyone would work 80 hours a week for grub and a shitty trailer to sleep in! That way, they can sit on the veranda with their fancy women and sip mint juleps while the straw boss whips the indentured servants, and rake in huge profits. Originally Posted by Jewish LawyerWhat country are you living in?
Actually most of the people on the various social serves are the working poor. People working for companies such as Wal-Mart that increase their profit margin by treating their employees badly. Low pay, no benefits, less than full time employees. Right now in a number of states Wal-Mart employees are the largest single group receiving social services. Add to the fact that Wal-Mart frequently receives tax breaks for locating, plus the fact that Wal-Mart in smaller communities kills off the local eco-system of small businesses. Originally Posted by BigLouieGee, if Wal Mart is THAT bad...why would anyone ever work for them? You know they are the largest private sector employer in the US, 2.1 Million people right? http://www.statisticbrain.com/u-s-largest-employers/ And I'll further bet there are not many illegals working there with E-Verify underway.
I have a problem with unfettered immigration. Originally Posted by ExNYerOh, like the first 450 years of our history (150 as a country) when there were no passports (except for diplomats) visas or fences and anybody could come into the country and eventually become a citizen like 90% or more of the people on this board's ancestors?
Gee, if Wal Mart is THAT bad...why would anyone ever work for them? You know they are the largest private sector employer in the US, 2.1 Million people right? http://www.statisticbrain.com/u-s-largest-employers/ And I'll further bet there are not many illegals working there with E-Verify underway. Originally Posted by Chica ChaserThey are sometimes that bad but people work for them even so because in many cases they have put many other employers out off business. They employ a lot of undocumented workers because a lot of those workers have false documents that pass (or aren't looked at closely enough) and also by outsourcing cleaning and other tasks in the store.
What country are you living in?Unfortunately, the USA. You will note his handle is TxRancher, and his offensive pro immigration of low wage workers comment.
Mint juleps on the veranda? Stereotype much?
Ground zero for exploiting illegal aliens is California - where they pick the fruits and veggies.
I don't think they sip too many mint juleps in California. Or sit on verandas. Originally Posted by ExNYer
Oh, like the first 450 years of our history (150 as a country) when there were no passports (except for diplomats) visas or fences and anybody could come into the country and eventually become a citizen like 90% or more of the people on this board's ancestors?I think we have treated the Indians really well - I wish I had reservation land I could slap a casino on - I'd add a whorehouse, too!
Turns out there was no such things as "illegal" immigration unless you were Chinese or from an "undesirable" race or country.
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