Perhaps you are over thinking it. Maybe she just wants your company. To you Xmas is a gift giving holiday and it is seared into your thought process that gifts have to be tangible items and to her maybe company (in whatever form) is more precious. Originally Posted by bored@homeI probably am overthinking; omakase thinks so, too. bored@home, good point I think there really is an element in there. OTOH ...
I totally disagree with that. If a provider just wants a hobbyists company, then he should not have to pay for her time .. Originally Posted by davidfree986On to this:
Seems to me the OP misses the point. You ask your SO what she wants, generally because prior surprises were not appreciated. Originally Posted by doug_dfwNo, you ask your SO what she wants because after 30 years of tying to make sure she's safe and happy, you're completely out of ideas for things that 1) won't be forgotten in five days and 2) might bring a smile of genuine happiness to her face.
Make your best guess, be romantic in giving, and a surprise. You will be surprised by the appreciation. Providers are women first and foremost. Remember, it is the thought that counts. Not the magnitude.This is more in line with the answer I would expect a woman to provide.
Well, I recently took a lady to get a mani/pedi We sat in chairs beside each other and I got my toes done as well. It was a first for me and it was fun. We laughed a lot and got the shop girls tickled as well. We went to lunch afterwards. Your feet feel really good by the way... Originally Posted by diddlemanYou and I would have a ball, I was at the nail tech's yesterday ! I live for mani/pedis, as many ladies do.
OP's a romantic. His questions always amuse me because it seems that he's yearning for a deeper meaning. Probably a mean thing to say but it's been a rough morning so I feel snarky.Women are constantly barraged with men who are generally just wishing to play games about dates WAY in the future. When I was newer, I would spend months dealing with these guys to only have them not follow through when the time came.
(1) It's not even Halloween so why bother with Christmas yet? You should focus on the more immediate holidays.
(2) How new is this ATF? I doubt that she'd answer that question the way she did if you were a regular. Until you've qualified for her elite status, you're in the economy class.
(3) Again, why are you planning a session that's 2 1/2 months away? Isn't there some movie rule that you don't set up dates further than you've known the person? Originally Posted by omakase
Somehow, an impression has developed that I haven't known her for very long.Oh, completely. Yes, I thought that she was someone that you barely knew.
Elizabeth, would your answer change of it were someone you had been seeing regularly for three years? Originally Posted by Sir Lancehernot
I was asking a lady recently what I might get her for Christmas.Christmas is such a shitty commercialized holiday, who honestly gives a fuck about it that doesn't still piss the bed?
She said she couldn't think of anything and said if I wanted to give her something, I could make an appointment.
My perspective was, "Seriously? I'd like to do something special -- within my means, which I admit are rather modest compared to some of your other clients -- and the best gift you can think of is basically another day at the office, the same old in-and-out, just one of two or three other appointments you'll do that day?"
I think Christmas is special, and I wrack my brain for months trying to figure out good gifts for the people on my list. An appointment seems so ordinary, common, mundane, pedestrian (not for me, but certainly for her).
Other perspectives? Originally Posted by Sir Lancehernot
Thanks for that positive, informative, and enlightening contribution! Merry Christmas to you and Mrs. Scrooge! Originally Posted by Sir LancehernotIf you want to stand out in the crowd (You do, don't you?) Don't do birthday gifts, don't do Valentines, don't do Christmas or Mother's day. Every fool with a dick will try to capitalize on some browny points when one of these Mc Holidays pops up. And most likely she won't even be using her real birthday (I bet some of these girls have birthdays every few weeks.) Instead, do something on a random Monday. I'm not talking about showing up uninvited naked with a banjo type spontaneous, keep it classy and professional, but spontaneous, and slightly random out of the blue. It's more appreciated if it isn't expected/suspected. I was trying to help you out, but if Corporate America has you tooled into the Christmas idea, well.
Well, I recently took a lady to get a mani/pedi We sat in chairs beside each other and I got my toes done as well. It was a first for me and it was fun. We laughed a lot and got the shop girls tickled as well. We went to lunch afterwards. Your feet feel really good by the way... Originally Posted by diddleman
Somehow, an impression has developed that I haven't known her for very long.Obviously, I'm not Elizabeth but that is more reason that she feels you are crossing the line. This is about sex ...nothing more.
Elizabeth, would your answer change of it were someone you had been seeing regularly for three years? Originally Posted by Sir Lancehernot
This is about sex ...nothing more. Originally Posted by OldLRRPFor you, perhaps. WALDT.
For you, perhaps. WALDT.I'm retired but I have a business. Come Christmas time, I will be buying gifts for some of those that do business with me. I would feel odd if one bought a gift for me. They show their appreciation, each month, when they pay the invoices.
If what some ladies have told me is true, you'd be surprised at the number of clients who are content to spend their hour just conversing. (No, I'm not in that number.)
I really can't see how it is out of line to give a gift to someone with whom you have a valued relationship, whether it's for sex only, whether it's a business relationship, or whether it's a personal relationship. As some of the ladies have who have chimed in have indicated, they enjoy receiving such gestures of appreciation. If it gives me pleasure to give, and she enjoys and appreciates the gift, why not? Originally Posted by Sir Lancehernot