The economy grew 2.9% in the 3rd quarter

You're a stubborn, argumentative asshole. And you pick stupid fights. Yes, it's obvious. It's obvious to anyone with an econ background that an economy that is shrinking at an annual rate of -8.2% is plummeting/cratering/in free-fall. Just as it's obvious to anyone with an econ background that an economy that is expanding at an annual rate of 2.9% isn't exactly "roaring back". You can either be right on both obvious statements, or wrong on both. Your choice. Which is it, mope? Originally Posted by lustylad

More lame attempts to put words in my mouth? Followed by a false choice?

I never said anything about how I would characterize a -8.2% rate. YOU DID.

I pointed out that your statement characterizing -8.2% as cratering, free-fall, whatever, was just a lame attempt to shift the argument away from when the Great Recession began and ended.

You realized you were wrong about the dates and rather than admit that, you started spouting some bullshit about the "brunt" of the recession - as if that somehow changed the start and end dates.

What is your strategy here, loser? To keep piling on misleading posts until people forget you were wrong? It won't work. i will keep reminding them.

If the wind is gusting at 50 mph and your local weatherman warns you of "gale-force blasts" do you call him a "drama queen"?

Btw, if "winning" an argument means getting a stubborn, ignorant old fuck like you to admit the obvious, then yes - in that narrow sense I'll never "win" the argument. But everyone else can reach their own conclusions. Originally Posted by lustylad

Apparently you think "winning" an argument means putting words in other peoples mouths and setting up straw man arguments to try to make yourself look right.

It won't work. Drama queen.

No he didn't, Dodd/ Frank did. You asshole. Originally Posted by bambino

The Great Recession happened on his watch. So Bush gets the blame.

If Obama gets the blame for 8 years of shitty growth and a doubling of the national debt because it happened on his watch, then Bush gets the blame for the Great Recession.

You don't get to have it both ways, fat fuck.

And Bush could have and should have done something about Dodd/Frank if that was the case. But he didn't. For 8 years.

Bush was perfectly happy to let a housing bubble fuel the economy after the tech bubble burst. He never even tried to attack the lousy credit rating schemes - if he was even aware of them - that enabled the banks to lend money to strippers and landscapers to buy houses.

More lame attempts to put words in my mouth? Followed by a false choice?

I never said anything about how I would characterize a -8.2% rate. YOU DID.

I pointed out that your statement characterizing -8.2% as cratering, free-fall, whatever, was just a lame attempt to shift the argument away from when the Great Recession began and ended.

You realized you were wrong about the dates and rather than admit that, you started spouting some bullshit about the "brunt" of the recession - as if that somehow changed the start and end dates.

What is your strategy here, loser? To keep piling on misleading posts until people forget you were wrong? It won't work. i will keep reminding them.


Apparently you think "winning" an argument means putting words in other peoples mouths and setting up straw man arguments to try to make yourself look right.

It won't work. Drama queen. Originally Posted by Revenant

Reverend ir·rel·e·vant is floundering...


This is fun

Reverend ir·rel·e·vant is floundering... Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

Only in the opinions of Trump acolytes like you, brown-noser.

He'll soon be on hiatus...

Only in the opinions of Trump acolytes like you, brown-noser. Originally Posted by Revenant

Get used to it ir·rel·e·vant, Shit Eaters little sister...

No he didn't, Dodd/Frank did. You asshole. Originally Posted by bambino

And Bush could have and should have done something about Dodd/Frank if that was the case. But he didn't. For 8 years. Originally Posted by Revenant

Dodd/Frank wasn't passed until 2010. I think you're both referring to the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act, which occurred in 1999 when Bill Clinton signed the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. And don't forget the Financial Services Modernization Act, also signed by Slick Willy in 1999. IMHO the latter legislation was the more problematic of the two, and more linked to the origins of the 2008/09 financial meltdown (note the correct years in boldface). In any event, Bush had nothing to do with either law - both were passed and signed on Slick Willy's watch.

Bush was perfectly happy to let a housing bubble fuel the economy after the tech bubble burst. He never even tried to attack the lousy credit rating schemes - if he was even aware of them - that enabled the banks to lend money to strippers and landscapers to buy houses. Originally Posted by Revenant

Your narrative on what caused the Great Recession is distorted, grossly over-simplified, and far too well-entrenched in your stubborn, incurious little mind for me to try to enlighten you on the subject. Suffice it to say there is plenty of blame to go around, even though you prefer to cling to your chosen scapegoats to the exclusion of all others. Recessions will always be with us, mope. And ignorant, opportunistic fucks like you will always be fulminating about and seeking to exploit the last one ("never let a crisis go to waste") instead of looking out for the next one.

He'll soon be on hiatus... Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

You will soon be posting under another handle, 0zombie!

The Great Recession happened on his watch. So Bush gets the blame.

If Obama gets the blame for 8 years of shitty growth and a doubling of the national debt because it happened on his watch, then Bush gets the blame for the Great Recession.

You don't get to have it both ways, fat fuck.

And Bush could have and should have done something about Dodd/Frank if that was the case. But he didn't. For 8 years.

Bush was perfectly happy to let a housing bubble fuel the economy after the tech bubble burst. He never even tried to attack the lousy credit rating schemes - if he was even aware of them - that enabled the banks to lend money to strippers and landscapers to buy houses. Originally Posted by Revenant

Who's a fat fuck? Are you an Asswipe disciple? I would wager Im in much better shape than you. You've been exposed as a fraud. Blow me faggot.

Dodd/Frank wasn't passed until 2010. I think you're both referring to the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act, which occurred in 1999 when Bill Clinton signed the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. And don't forget the Financial Services Modernization Act, also signed by Slick Willy in 1999. IMHO the latter legislation was the more problematic of the two, and more linked to the origins of the 2008/09 financial meltdown (note the correct years in boldface). In any event, Bush had nothing to do with either law - both were passed and signed on Slick Willy's watch.

Your narrative on what caused the Great Recession is distorted, grossly over-simplified, and far too well-entrenched in your stubborn, incurious little mind for me to try to enlighten you on the subject. Suffice it to say there is plenty of blame to go around, even though you prefer to cling to your chosen scapegoats to the exclusion of all others. Recessions will always be with us, mope. And ignorant, opportunistic fucks like you will always be fulminating about and seeking to exploit the last one ("never let a crisis go to waste") instead of looking out for the next one. Originally Posted by lustylad

Once again, you're trying to put words in my mouth.

I am not trying to exhaustively list everything that contributed to the Great Recession (December 2007 to mid 2009). Note the still correct dates in bold AND italics. So I don't give a fuck about listing every factor - if that could even be agreed upon.

I am simply responding to Bambino, the fat fuck, who is trying to absolve Bush for what happened on his watch while blaming Obama for everything that happened on his watch.

That's just rank hypocrisy. A concept so simple even you should be able to understand it.

Who's a fat fuck? Are you an Asswipe disciple? I would wager Im in much better shape than you. You've been exposed as a fraud. Blow me faggot. Originally Posted by bambino

Judging by your avatar, you're a fat fuck. How else can you carry Babe Ruth on your back?

I never said anything about how I would characterize a -8.2% rate. YOU DID. Originally Posted by Revenant

Well then, go ahead and characterize it for us. Do the following descriptions apply?

Plummeting
Cratering
Nosedive
Free-fall
Tanking

Yes or no, mope?

The Great Recession happened on his watch. So Bush gets the blame.

If Obama gets the blame for 8 years of shitty growth and a doubling of the national debt because it happened on his watch, then Bush gets the blame for the Great Recession.

You don't get to have it both ways, fat fuck.
Originally Posted by Revenant

When one (that would be Obama) does just about anything he can to retard economic growth ("growth" = increasing REAL JOBS and DOMESTIC PRODUCTION and SMALL BUSINESSES) and assure that a WELFARE NANNY STATE expands .... then one can distinguish .... which is not "having it both ways"!

"Regs and Uncertainty"!

Judging by your avatar, you're a fat fuck. How else can you carry Babe Ruth on your back? Originally Posted by Revenant

Judging by your avatar, you're any empty loser.

Well then, go ahead and characterize it for us. Do the following descriptions apply?

Plummeting
Cratering
Nosedive
Free-fall
Tanking

Yes or no, mope? Originally Posted by lustylad

I don't characterize that because I don't have to, mope.

What does that have to do with the start and end dates of the Great Recession? You remember that, right? It's the thing you got wrong.

Which is why you are trying to change the subject. AGAIN.

Now the subject THIS time is Bush owning the Great Recession if Obama has to own 8 years of shitty growth. Don't change the subject again.