OBAMA WAS FOR THE 12 MONTH EXTENSION BEFORE HE WAS AGAINST IT........

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Yeah, a couple of hours after I post your fucksticks in congress will cave....they do. Speaking of irresponsible teenage idiots. Suck on it moron. Originally Posted by timpage
Your moron-in-chief has sucking all lip-locked up – you might say he has a veritable monopoly on sucking!

Perhaps if you weren’t such a sucking moron you would see that!


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Way to go on misrepresenting fact WTF. The simple fact is that the House DID pass a 12 month extension before the Senate cobbled their bill together. If the Senate had wanted to pass this thing on to the White House (who also wanted a 12 month extension) then the Senate would have passed one.The house would not pass a bill without add ons the other 2 legislative portions of our 3 body government did not want. It is that simple. Now go and misrepresent that. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
The house (the republicans by a straight party vote) passed a 12 month with add ons the democrats (the president and the senate) didn't want. Yes they originaly wanted a 12 month but without the republican add ons.
The senate passed a heavily bi-partisan 2 month and the president compromised by giving the pipeline 2 months of extra debate time.

Is 2 months ideal? No but it is better than having the unemployment, payroll tax, and the Doctor(medicare pay thing) expire on the 31st.

The bottom line is that the senate and the president were willing to negotiate. The house wasn't.
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Just like they were willing to negotiate when Obamacare passed on a party line vote. Even after Obama promised "bi-partisan" health care reform. Another lie. Trying to decide who is the biggest liar among President Obama, Harry Reid and John Boehner is a waste of time. They all win.
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Just like they were willing to negotiate when Obamacare passed on a party line vote. Even after Obama promised "bi-partisan" health care reform. Another lie. Trying to decide who is the biggest liar among President Obama, Harry Reid and John Boehner is a waste of time. They all win. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
The republicans have constantly stated they want repeal. They have not offered any alternate plans except for one (ryan) which was radically different.

How can you have bi-partisan reform when one side's idea of reform is repeal?
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The idea of repeal only came up after the bill was passed. Without any Republican support, or input allowed. And only after the populace expressed their displeasure at the polls in 2010. This is not a good plan, they need to repeal this power grab and work together on something that might actually work. If Obamacare stands, health care as we know will change drastically and deteriorate quickly.

Since Democrats were in total control of Congress, their input was not allowed. Even AFTER Obama PROMISED bi-partisan support. He's a liar. Get used to it. You are supporting a liar.
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The idea of repeal only came up after the bill was passed. Without any Republican support, or input allowed. And only after the populace expressed their displeasure at the polls in 2010. This is not a good plan, they need to repeal this power grab and work together on something that might actually work. If Obamacare stands, health care as we know will change drastically and deteriorate quickly.

Since Democrats were in total control of Congress, their input was not allowed. Even AFTER Obama PROMISED bi-partisan support. He's a liar. Get used to it. You are supporting a liar. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
No input allowed? You are full of shit.

How could Obama promise bi-partisan support? How could he say that there would be some republicans who would support health care? When their own party would have made sure they were not re-elected, because they broke ranks and voted with the democrats?

The answer?

Easy. You are full of shit.

Since I can't prove a negative, here is your chance asshole.

Show a link to Obama promising bi-partisan support.

Man up or shut up.
Finially some TRUTH!

They have been covering up the costs of wars ever since.

Without the SS overrun , there would have been far fewer wars.

IMHO Originally Posted by WTF

a moment of lucidity. like an old tv from the 50's, hook up three coat hangers to reach the window, everyone remain dead still, and hope the picture will stay at its canted 70 degree tilt, but at least its visible for the moment
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  • 12-23-2011, 08:43 AM
a moment of lucidity. Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought
You see only what you wanna see old man!


You need to rent Talladega Nights...watch the scene where the kids are praying at the supper table.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A0-u85aAYg

Here go
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I don't know what that had to do with anything, but it was funny.
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  • 12-23-2011, 09:13 AM
It is the eccie version of a parody of nevergaveitathought....he keeps acting like the old man in this nuthouse
I don't know what that had to do with anything, but it was funny. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
its like a pin ball machine in that brain, wild chemical spurts that jump synapses, shooting here and there. ya never know what might bounce out
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  • 12-23-2011, 09:54 AM
its like a pin ball machine in that brain, wild chemical spurts that jump synpases, shooting here and there. ya never know what might bounce out Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought
It is called ADHD
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Oh! Well, I know what that's all ab . . . Look! A kitty!

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  • 12-23-2011, 10:06 AM
I'm not interested in that kind of kitty.
We hyperfocus on things that interest us!