I'm not AA but I do understand where you're coming from. You've got a legitimate point of discussion that presented in a more neutral format, could be debated. But given its association with another person, and it's proximity to a similar thread, it leads the reader to believe you had other, more judgmental motives in your post. That calls into question, and essentially invalidates, the legitimate point.
As for my position in the debate, I think anytime a provider changes a policy it is her business. I either accept it or I don't. If I file a complaint, I'll do it with her personally, not in the public forum.
Originally Posted by JDNorthface
Someone's motives I believe can cause serious questioning.. Sure.. But "
invalidates, the legitimate point". Really?
Maybe she has her own reasoning for writing these post that is disagreeable to most users in this thread. But her personal reasons for making these post, doesn't invalidate on it's own what she is saying.
I personally think it was very courageous for Amy to change her policy. She had to know that there was a chance the community or at least parts of the community would react negatively to her. Not to mention what if her reasoning for the policy in the first place proved true for her after she announced the change? What would be the reaction if she decided to go back to being NBA? Last but certainly not least, she was incredibly honest regarding why she held the policy in the first place. I found that admirable even though I completely disagreed with her initial reasonings for the policy. Because of those threads, I now find Amy to be a pretty cool person even though we haven't met.. yet. And I hope we do.
At the same time, I think the OP has a valid point. It may not valid or appropriate regarding Amy's thread but, it does make sense in the hypothetical proposition she voiced.
If someone wouldn't see you because they believed enough in racist stereotypes to ban doing business with you (at least publicly), do you really want to see her when others tell her you're just another John, take the cash?
I think this is what SS was trying to communicate.
The point I think SS is missing is the type of business this is. Some people guys and gals.. are ok with just being treated as object. Whether it's girls who are perfectly fine being a product that is used or leased by the hour.. Or guys who know very well that the girl has seen 6+ other people earlier that day, and he's just #7. That's part of what's great about this hobby. It's consensual. Ideally, everyone knows what they want.. they agree on terms.. win/win.
To put it bluntly SS, A lot of guys have no issue with being an just another object that dispenses cash; As long as the provider has no problem giving the service level he desires.
Of course this doesn't apply to everyone. Take me for example. You wouldn't know it from my reviews or lack of them.. But I like to make sincere connections with people that goes well beyond an erotic encounter. We don't have to become
bestfriendsforever!1! but, I do like to connect with others in more ways than one. I enjoy meeting the person they are, and not the person they think I want them to be. This includes flaws and all.. None of us is perfect, and I like it that way.
I noticed on here that a lot of people don't think multiple yet disagreeable ideas can co-exist. They can. BTW, though its highly likely this is a response to Amy's thread.. I don't think SS connected them on her own. Other users did that for her. What's wrong with debating her post on it's own merits? If SS post is so incredibly wrong, why not debate the obvious error in her logic? Why result to making it more than that? If she's a definitely troll.. she would have outed herself in her responses. Talking about motives.. What are other people's motives when they are debating SS (Amy aside)?
Again, I feel the need to say I'm really not taking "sides" in this. Quite often EC and HD feel like HS; Where there's a lot of group intelligence and decentralized decision making. It would be a fun alternative to have a place and or time where adults can have adult conversations in a more open way without all the finger pointing.
