Anyone successfully propositioned a girl who is NOT a provider???

I think my reply to her story would have been a lighthearted 'wow, sounds like you need a sugardaddy' just to see how she responds. If you can get her in that conversation again, that might work. Its a light enough approach that she won't likely be offended and even if she is, you arent suggesting anything illegal. Just don't be overly serious... and then see if she gives you a green light to pursue the conversation further...

Honestly, it sounds like she is ripe for a sugar daddy arrangement. It does sounds like she needs some mentoring to get her finances in order. Most civvies will feel more positive about being a SB versus a one off.

Tread carefully and respectfully. Originally Posted by SA Angel

Yeah Agree 100% and to that I'm sure she would bite based on what I'm reading here.

That's the way I would play it for sure if it were me and I really wanted to pursue this young lady for a good dick down LOL .

I think my reply to her story would have been a lighthearted 'wow, sounds like you need a sugardaddy' just to see how she responds. If you can get her in that conversation again, that might work. Its a light enough approach that she won't likely be offended and even if she is, you arent suggesting anything illegal. Just don't be overly serious... and then see if she gives you a green light to pursue the conversation further... Originally Posted by VegasJen

Oh Wise One, OP listen to Jen she just told you what to do and how to do it.

First time ever I agree with Wakeup. ha ha!
Originally Posted by Holly Love

I bet you feel dirty, don't you?

Oh Wise One, OP listen to Jen she just told you what to do and how to do it. Originally Posted by `flip

Agree. I did that once in a drive thru beer stop. Gave the young lady $30 dollars for $21 dollars in beer. She never brought me my change.

Maxi...I just read your post again....and I think your a very smart woman and I really appreciate that...thanks!

Again...i would NOT want to cause this young woman trouble of any kind! Originally Posted by Lucky 1

Anyone who is in the hobby, knows that there are ladies here that we would never think we're I'd we just saw them in the real world. So, now, we look at every lady from that perspective. Not always a good thing this tug of war going on in our head.
The right thing to do is really simple. You have become someone what friendly with this lady. Would you help a friend out, if you could, with no strings attached? Then do it! Now, maybe, just maybe, she just maybe might maybe "help you out", maybe! If you make it clear that there are no strings to your offer, you have less a chance that you might offend her. Actually, is your fantasy wish (we all get that) that you helped her so she "owed" you? To that you helped her and she (understanding your need and desire, and having needs and desires also), shares with you what she could as you did with her? One response might get you your fantasy, the other, your fantasy is the best you'll get.

I've seen these kinds of discussions on other boards about basically how to find non-pro UTRs, especially if you are their first 'client.' Some guys have some success stories and others have ended up being embarrassed. I had a sexy friend who I knew was open to things sexually, and she needed money. So, I took the risk of telling her I saw providers. When she didn't show any shock or negativity about it, I talked about it a little, how the girls seem to have fun while still earning $, etc. Then I took a deep breath and said "I'd love to have an arrangement with you, like that." An hour later we were in bed together..

You can always try humor. If she acts shocked, your fall-back is you were just kidding. Or talk about how bad the economy is and how you read that many women are having 'arrangements' with friends to help out with expenses. Gauge her reaction and go on from there...

Had coffee there very early yesterday....she was there and since the place wasn't hardly busy chatted a bit....found out some interesting things .....Leticia (not her real name)found out she's 24.......and that her parents were both killed in a car wreck when she was a senior in H.S and she spent the next two years with an aunt.

A boyfriend got her pregnant when she was 22 and split and she has a little girl not quite 2 years old.......she works the early crowd at the coffee shop for hoirs and tips.....goes to college during then day and then works the supper crowd at a better restaurant again for wages plus tips.....doesn't make a huge amount of money but sounds conservative with what she does have.....she Does as well as she does becuase her parents left her
there house which Is paid for....says the property taxes and insurance are hard though..

Told her she might really consider selling the house which is way to big for her and upkeep is a problem an use the money to buy something smaller she can pay cash for and still have probably quite a bit of cash left....she told me the neighborhood and those houses are worth $300, 000 .
Told her she should buy a modest home for her and her daughter and she'd still have at least $150, 000 or more...probably more....that big house in a somewhat upscale neighborhood is just an anchor around her neck

She seemed really happy to have someone take an interest in her situation and I gave her the number to a realtor I know who won't rob her on commissions.

In short I gave her advice she needed much the same as I'd give one of my own daughters. ....

Then I put a couple $$ in her tip jar and said use it wisely. ..geesh...she looked so emotional like she wanted to cry.

No thoughts of sex with her now....she's got enough to handle....just going to be her friend...that's it

Entering the "friend zone" is a trip to nothing ... other than getting her primed for someone to boinck her silly.

In short I gave her advice she needed much the same as I'd give one of my own daughters. ....

Then I put a couple $$ in her tip jar and said use it wisely. ..geesh...she looked so emotional like she wanted to cry.

No thoughts of sex with her now....she's got enough to handle....just going to be her friend...that's it Originally Posted by Lucky 1

Thanks for your mature attitude.

btw, she may well be very grateful down the line because you continue to patronize the coffee shop and, try as hard as you might to avoid any emotional attaching (from either direction) ya just never know how it will work out.

But your honorable response says a lot about those who are able to separate the hobby mindset of "f*ck everything!" with those who are able to keep it in their pants until a wonderful lady from our community unzips 'em.

Entering the "friend zone" is a trip to nothing ... other than getting her primed for someone to boinck her silly. Originally Posted by pyramider

Breaking News! You're gonna want to sit down, cause the following may come as a complete and total shocker to you, and maybe a couple others....

Some men actually view women as more than just an avenue to achieve an orgasm. Tough concept for some to comprehend, but I can understand why that is. Maybe some day you too will come to understand or experience that as well. I sure hope so, cause you're missing out, otherwise. While I like sex, I do realize, men are also great for opening jars! LOL. I kid I kid, we got gadgets for that these days. LOL.

OK . . .I've only read the OP and the first few threads, so this view may be redundant:

this sounds like an opportunity for one of the varieties of SB/SD arrangements.

If its not, buy more coffee and tip bigger.

To the Op.
Well done, mate!

If I were you, I'd ask her for help getting a gift to a "friend" that is a hard worker. Take her favorite idea, on her break, go as far as showing her a few pics and let her tell you which one appeals more to her. Buy it, wrap it, add a cute little "friendly" note. Give it to her. Something fancy though, so she knows you can afford spending like that. And, that could be your window to open a sugar daddy/sugar baby discussion. If after that she is not even more friendly, then she is just not interested at all.

2nd option: Help her without expecting anything in return, and who knows, you might get something in return. Maybe a peck on the cheek, maybe longer conversations to get to know you. It is not much, but it is a start. Good luck.

You 2 have something in common.