Why the rise in BP girl reviews?

VP status means nothing more then you are an escort. False - It means you've been verified.

lol,Been verified as what? verified as honest? verified as std free? verified as scam free? verified as pimp free?
No! she is being verified as a provider. NOTHING else. That's what the reviews are for.

I have seen escorts advertise BBFS on eccie. Once, and what does that prove beyond the lady is an idiot.

It proves that low quality is EVERYWHERE even on this board.
She may be an idiot but it is her choice and her choice alone.

I have seen escorts run 100$ an hour ads on eccie. For how long? 1/2 hr? Maybe she didn't have to pay a pimp!

As I stated it was for the HOUR. ( If I remember right it was a special and for repeat clients only.)

Maybe she didn't have to pay a pimp

And maybe she did. (neither of us know what she does with her money much less who she gives it too)

VP does not mean you are more trusted. Actually it does

No it doesn't. Reviews are really the only way to gauge if a escort is trusted.
And Even that is not fool proof.
Are you trying to tell everyone that a brand new escort with vp status and only 1 review is with out doubt trusted?
I didn't think so. ( Only time will tell)

Their are low quality escorts with VP status who leek private info thinking they are gonna gain more clients all the time. Do they really leek (sic) it? To you?

ALL the time. Do i get it leeked to me? NO.
I have attend a meetup and engaged in conversation with an indie and had to stop her in mid sentence and say " you know your not supposed to talk about what goes on in there" What goes on in the ladies room has little to nothing to do with J'Adore Introductons. We have our own network for such things

A VP could easily have a pimp. Agency, pimp! Personally, I don't see the difference!

Good thing we dont make money on personal opinions.
There is a difference between a pimp and an agency.
Any agency escort is well aware of the possibility of becoming and indie.
Maybe they dont like answering phones, Maybe they dont like to take the time screening. Maybe their a teacher or a soccer mom who cant answer their phone in front of their kids. Maybe their husband just doesn't know.
Maybe they make more money as an agency girl then then do as an indie. Maybe they like the idea of a safety net.
Regardless of the maybes the bottom line is that they have chosen to to work with an agency, this is their choice and nothing more.
Rest assured that the phones wont ring any less because of personal opinions
There will always be those who choose indie and their are always those who prefer agency.

Tiffany you made a good point. I think the biggest difference is GFE.
99% of the BP girls, will only give one pop, will not LFK or DFK. Everything else on the menu applies.
Basically it is a choice 125 per O, cant touch just an O...well hell I could do it on my own and save 125 to apply towards a GFE . The GFE "experience" is like comparing a well know Escort to a street walker from BP. Right now there are two PREGNANT WOMAN advertising it on BP...one of them might go any minute...wow...I learned my lesson. USe BP to see who is here, then go do your due diligence and see whats on P411 or right here on ECCIE.
It aint worth going to jail over!

Right now there are two PREGNANT WOMAN advertising it on BP

There are pregnant providers on eccie and p411. To each his own.

Someone has to bring them into the fold.............then we can teach them a better way.

BP is just one of many resources that I encourage us guys to use. Yes, there are high quality providers on BP. Ye, there are SW quality providers on BP. The proof is in your research. If you can't sniff out a quality BP provider from a "stranger, danger" provider, then just stick to ECCIE or Escorts or some other board. I search BP because touring providers may show up on BP. From there I can build on my research. BP is like the ocean. There is always the chance of a good catch. There's also the chance of finding dead fish. Just gotta be a good fisherman.

Here's another slant...... it COULD be that most of the VP's here (well at least the more sr. ones) have been well reviewed and there is nothing new to say.... In my opinion the "rise" in reviews the BP gals seem to be getting is no different then the flood of reviews the "new" VP's seem to get.

If your biz is good does "lack of review" mean anything? Originally Posted by PT4ME

Good point ... I do a lot of repeats, but I generally only do 1 review per provider (unless something radically changes).

I personally avoid BP & CL like the plague ... when I tried some girls off these services a couple of years ago ... it was mostly negative/bogus experiences. So I generally stick with verified providers (you can generally be close to 100% assured that you will not encounter LE). Plus most of the time you know what to expect with a VP. Also, with enough research, you can get real value with the right VP.

Someone has to bring them into the fold.............then we can teach them a better way

I didn't want to pitch in on this post as the point has already been made by J'adore and Heather but I really don't see why so many ppl dogg BP (CL is a different story). When I first came in the hobby; TER was the first review site I found and Everyone there acts as though BP/CL is the devil (read their newbie board or post a question about BP/CL and you will see what I;m talkin about). And thats why I left the place and found Eccie, and bc Eccie has much more active southern Local boards.

But Truth of the matter is: to me its seems that a very good # of verified/good providers (not goin to name names) do advertise on BP. If you do your research, you will notice that there are numerous girls on BP what has a list of reviews on both Eccie, TER, and escorts.com PLUS their own website. So if you do your research and chose a girl with good reviews, You will have just as good of a time, if not better, as a VP or provider who don't use BP. Plus many VPs here, P411, + DC providers also use BP to advertise. It does not lower their quality in any way.

Someone has to bring them into the fold.............then we can teach them a better way. Originally Posted by dearhunter

Word!

And YOUR way is better for them ?

Or
Cheaper for you?

Do you hold classes on the "Better Way?"

ADD ON:
I can't even take your comments serious.
1,600+ post
0 reviews

I think the " BETTER WAY" is however the escort in question has CHOSEN to conduct her business .
It is clearly what works for the hypothetical "escorts"' in question .

Originally Posted by Jadore Introductions

Why should we pay you thru the girls? The girls are better off on their own anyway. You do nothing for either the girls or the hobbyists except schdule, and for that the girls and us should pay you extra? I don't think so.

Originally Posted by John Bull

Why should we pay you thru the girls? The girls are better off on their own anyway. You do nothing for either the girls or the hobbyists except schdule, and for that the girls and us should pay you extra? I don't think so. Originally Posted by John Bull

Edit:

I am an agency girl who does indie work on the side from time to time. I prefer working for an agency ( an honest agency) more than i like working as an indie. I could care less to answer emails text msgs and phone calls all day. I would rather let the agency handle all the bs for a fee than do it my self. ( i have kids a so and little time to do anything muchless provide)It works for me. does that make me less of a provider? NOPE! I am a Great provider and have the reviews to back it up. If you cant afford the extra it cost to go thou the agency to see me its not my problem nor is it my fault. some one else will fill your shoes. that simple.

It seems that you have great issues with agencies ( even legit agencies with reviews and all)
as a mod it should not be your place to dog an agency or decide whats best for any escort.
We are all big girls and make our own decisions on how we want to work.
saying that an agency and a pimp are the same thing is ignorant .
It implies that i work for a pimp.
I take GREAT insult to that.

I out source an agency because I do not like:
to deal with the creaps.
have haggle with clients over rates.
To screen all clients. ( I DO NOT HAVE THE TIME!)
etc etc etc.

To the whole "better way" thing:
WHen a client trys to get my personal info to go around the agency i just figure that either you are up to no good and want me alone or are just a cheap ass tring to save a buck. either way i want nothing to do with either.
NEWS flash my rate does not change rather i am an working as a indie or agency girls /

And Im sure you will bail out AT LEAST 75 percent of the INDIE angels that come to NOLA get put in jail or STEAL from an AGENCY that gets their asses there faster... WHO PAYS?? Everytime they want to watch cc's board then see her cheaper?? WAIT TILL THEY GET THEIR BLK BOOK HAHA... Annie YALL crack me up with this...YEAH AGENCIES ARE THE ONLY LEGAL(i mean really haha) ONES HERE! LOL!! YEP THATS WHY THE MEN WITH MONEY ARE WITH ME!!! ANNIE

And Im sure you will bail out AT LEAST 75 percent of the INDIE angels that come to NOLA get put in jail or STEAL from an AGENCY that gets their asses there faster... WHO PAYS?? Everytime they want to watch cc's board then see her cheaper?? WAIT TILL THEY GET THEIR BLK BOOK HAHA... Annie YALL crack me up with this...YEAH AGENCIES ARE THE ONLY LEGAL(i mean really haha) ONES HERE! LOL!! YEP THATS WHY THE MEN WITH MONEY ARE WITH ME!!! ANNIE Originally Posted by annie@christophers

Huh? I'm not in on this agency/indie debate but I'm just wondering if you can translate the above into something I can understand.

In Tiff's defense the market is extremely different in our area than in other areas. Here, the majority of BP girls are either Bait and Switch, LEO, or just of very low quality service, or low quality agencies that are a crap shoot. This sums up about 70% of the BP ads here, and that # is at the very least accurate but possibly a low #. The travelers are about the only girls that post on BP here that are also 411 girls or have reviews. And very few have reviews. There are, at max maybe 2 or 3 locals that advertise there, and none of them have any reviews.

When traveling to other states, I notice that many of the BP girls, are girls that actively participate here and other sites. They are well reviewed and well...generally are just using BP as another means of advertisement, as opposed to their only means.

So Tiff's reality to BP girls is completely different than say the Houston area BP girls. So don't get offended by her comments.

To Tiff,
There's two points to look at.

1. Many of us choose not review highly reviewed providers. Instead we only review new providers, as to let other hobbyists know yay or nay. On highly reviewed providers, the info is already known. Unless for some reason there is a change in personality, it's not uncommon for well reviewed providers to not get new ones.

2. Jake pretty much summed it all up. There's a major grumbling in the OK area amongst the guys that for some reason, MANY of the girls are coming here and jumping their rates. We also noticed a big price hike across the board for girls coming into, and for many of the locals here as well just a few months ago. It was almost overnight, as if there was some collusion going on. Originally it was noticed by a small number of vocal gents. They spoke up, and many of the guys who had noticed and didn't want to ruffle feathers spoke up finally as well. Thus the major shift to the BP girls who were cheaper priced. This essentially is a market correction, in an errant economy. Basically our wallets are doing the talking, and unfortunately many of the local girls are kind of suffering the fallout from the business practices of the well reviewed travelers. Many of the guys felt disturbed, that we were seeing prices of the girls jump substantially when they came here versus what they charged at home. Sometimes as much as $100. We all came to a conclusion of what we felt was a fair price and well.... now you have the drive towards the BP girls. Feel free to PM me if you wish to know what we decided was fair (although you my dear, are well within our accepted rate limit ) . Not that we can or should dictate rates, but we can choose who will get our money, and we'll allow the girls to do what they wish from there.

Edit:

I am an agency girl who does indie work on the side from time to time. I prefer working for an agency ( an honest agency) more than i like working as an indie. I could care less to answer emails text msgs and phone calls all day. I would rather let the agency handle all the bs for a fee than do it my self. ( i have kids a so and little time to do anything muchless provide)It works for me. does that make me less of a provider? NOPE! I am a Great provider and have the reviews to back it up. If you cant afford the extra it cost to go thou the agency to see me its not my problem nor is it my fault. some one else will fill your shoes. that simple.

It seems that you have great issues with agencies ( even legit agencies with reviews and all)
as a mod it should not be your place to dog an agency or decide whats best for any escort.
We are all big girls and make our own decisions on how we want to work.
saying that an agency and a pimp are the same thing is ignorant .
It implies that i work for a pimp.
I take GREAT insult to that.

I out source an agency because I do not like:
to deal with the creaps.
have haggle with clients over rates.
To screen all clients. ( I DO NOT HAVE THE TIME!)
etc etc etc.

To the whole "better way" thing:
WHen a client trys to get my personal info to go around the agency i just figure that either you are up to no good and want me alone or are just a cheap ass tring to save a buck. either way i want nothing to do with either.
NEWS flash my rate does not change rather i am an working as a indie or agency girls / Originally Posted by Amber-

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Ok, heaven forbid anyone tell someone else to how to price, and I have no idea what you charge & how that compares to the local market....but the cost of the agency shouldn't be an upcharge to the client....

As you point out the agency saves you valuable time and handles important functions you'd prefer not to. Nothing wrong with that....but the cost of an agency gal and and indy should be comprable to the client. What the agency gal splits with the agency is what the indy is earning by doing her own screening and non-"on the clock" correspondence.

As for this board, I think it will always skew pro-indy, just because there are so many bad agencies out there...that said, some are reputable