Beware of guys that short you, AFTER you leave

First off I think your post was very racist and ignorant. I don't count my donation first and I have only been shorted once. It was by a white man. I do see AA's and have quite a few that are great tippers. Why would you wait until you were all the way home before counting the money? He did offer to pay you the difference but you didn't want to drive back. I understand why but you have to give him credit for offering. As mentioned before your P411 ad states you offer a $50 discount. It does not have different rates posted for incall/outcall. Mistake on your part. I'm sure if this was a pattern for this man it would have been noted a long time ago. To all the ladies that automatically put this man on your DNS list: Shame on you. It seems you would at least hear his side of the story or go to her ads to see where the mix-up came from. I agree this should have only been posted in the Ladies room, not in an open forum where his fellow hobbyists could pass judgement on him. IMO, if I was a hobbyists this thread would be a total turn-off for me. Originally Posted by mikahranae

Of course, it did serve one purpose. . .a chilling effect.

I don't know about anyone else, but for the next few days I will be damn sure I understand the price of the session, and I will triple count the damn envelope. Gee. . .the potential for being bitch-slapped in public for something you probably didn't even do, sure has an aphrodisiac effect, now don't it. I mean public humiliation is the Viagra of hobby world.

Nice!

Threads like this are better than masturbating for controlling my spending.

I met him a month ago. He was so happy to meet me and gave me a great review. He was a great guy. The guy you wish they would all be like. I did an out call and after returning home to Plano, I looked and he shorted me $50. I called him and he said, "If you want to come back, I will give you the money" Considering it costs me $10 in toll each way, and 45 min each way. You understand! I told him an address to mail to. It has been a month and he never mailed the money. There is not a website in the world that says I do outcalls for $250. I am very disappointed about this because I thought he was the first African American Man I could trust. Need I say more? Originally Posted by kellyofdallas

I just want to ask a question please, he offered to give you the money if you came back...accidents do happen....do you think it could be an honest mistake? or because he is black he automatically ripped you off?
I am just asking a question, so please no flamming.....

I really appreciate the "heads up" for those of you who know me. You know I would never ever mistreat or cheat a lady or anyone. For $50 bucks? Give me a break. I was quoted $250. However, $50 bucks isn't worth disputing. It wasn't until a couple of days later she emailed me with the concern. Kelly and I exchanged emails,thought we had resolved and agreed, by the way, I saved the emails. However, it wasn't until I received an email from her as of Monday, telling me I needed to pay up and telling me I also promised to do a review on The Erotic Review. I immediately responded to her, telling her I would send her the money. I mailed it on Monday, June 7th. If she is honest, she will tell you when she receives it. I travel quite a bit, and quite frankly hadn't even thought about it again. I am so glad I do have people that know me and trust me. I wish this lady no ill will. I'd never cheat anyone anywhere. I hate Kelly thought that she needed to attempt to ruin my reputation, and in the process try to make a race thing out of it. That is unbelievable. I just ask you to consider the logic. If I wanted to cheat someone, why would I pick her to cheat out of $50 bucks. None of the ladies I've seen will ever tell you I have ever in any way, made an issue out of the requested fee or tried to negotiate. Then, turn around a do a solid review? That makes no sense. I am so thankful to the person that gave me the "Heads Up" that this mesage was posted about me. It will be interesting to see if Kelly will be honest and trustworth enough to admit she received the $50 dollars. I try really hard not to get dragged into "Mess". This will be my first and only reply to this time message. Thanks for reading. Sincerely, Shaft aka Darrell. I will be glad to give you my full name, address and any other information. I refuse to allow anyone to attempt to hold me hostage or threaten me. Those of you who still doubt my character. Check my reviews and "Ok's", and ask the ladies about me. I hate having to defend my reputation. I'm sorry to bore you guys with "Mess".

Fawn, and all. This has really upset me badly, I hope everyone reads my rebuttle. I am so glad one of the ladies was good enough to share that Kelly's Post with me. I'm not sure about her agenda, but I hate she decided to pull me in this. I've worked really hard to never ever get involved in "Mess" and this kind of crap. As long as I have been on the boards, you will never see my name associated with controversy and "crap". I wish Kelly nothing but the best, and am sorry for whatever her is going on with her. Again, I ask the question, "Why", would I wait until "Now" to decide to cheat a lady out of 50 bucks. Not 500 dollars but 50 bucks? come on! give me a break. I really hope she's honest enough to tell you guys that she received the money, and also the post mark will indicate it was well before she made the negative post. I have the email where I told her I didn't agree, but would send it anyway, and I did.

Thanks for the info Kelly... That guy has been emailing me, so now I know not to see him or answer his emails anymore! Regardless of how you word things, the point is that you put this out there for other people when you didnt have to tell it at all. You may have saved a lot of girls from being shorted or even worse! In my experience guys that do them kind of things are trying you to see what all they can get away with, and that can also become dangerous.... ya just never know Originally Posted by roxy28

Roxy, please read my reply. I wish Kelly no ill will. I just ask you to check with all the ladies that have seen me or some of them. I also ask you to consider the logic. Why would I decide that I'm going to all of a sudden pick Kelly to short $50 bucks? Why would I do that, then turn around and right a nice review? That makes no sense. I saved the emails she sent me. Although I know what she told me, rather then get into debate or hard feelings. I mailed her the money and sent her the email telling her as much. If she's really honest, she will post that information. Also, the post mark of the mail will indicate that it was long before she made her post accusing me of cutting her short. I may be a lot of things, but dishonest and a cheat is not one of them. It's not a black or white thing for me, it's a "Character" and "Integrity" thing with me. I think I have enough "Ok's", and TER White list that would surely support my character and honesty. Thanks for reading. I hope you will be open enough to draw your own conclusions after considering all the facts and information. This really hurts for someone to suggest differently. I think that's wrong on so many levels.

I met him a month ago. He was so happy to meet me and gave me a great review. He was a great guy. The guy you wish they would all be like. I did an out call and after returning home to Plano, I looked and he shorted me $50. I called him and he said, "If you want to come back, I will give you the money" Considering it costs me $10 in toll each way, and 45 min each way. You understand! I told him an address to mail to. It has been a month and he never mailed the money. There is not a website in the world that says I do outcalls for $250. I am very disappointed about this because I thought he was the first African American Man I could trust. Need I say more? Originally Posted by kellyofdallas

Kelly, I'm sorry you felt you had to attack my character, and also insinuate "Race". I'm sure you have your reasons. However, I'm not going to share or say anything to attempt to attack or belittle you. That would serve no useful purpose. All I ask is that you please share a post stating you received the dollars in question, and the post mark on the mail. I am so sorry we had this misunderstanding, and you felt the need to publicize it in such a way to make it seem like I intentionally and maliciously did something to cheat you, or it had something to do in some way my ethnic background. Now that's extremely hurtful. I wish you well.

Sorry you experienced that Miss Kelly...it only takes one bad apple to ruin the whole crop! Originally Posted by Str8Texan

Str8, I can assure you I am no bad apple. Please read my reply and draw your own conclusions. I appreciate your consideration.

Big C, you've known me forever. You know I would never ever do anything to cheat or mistreat a lady. Please see my replys. This has hurt me deeply. This was so unfair and uncalled for. I tried so hard to stay away from this kind of stuff. Wow!

Shaft....don't let it worry you too much. You have enough people here that know you are of good character. I know it sucks to be put in a situation like this, especially the racial part of it. I am sorry that you have been made to feel uncomfortable. Thanks for standing up for yourself.

Thanks Reese, I appreciate you sticking up for me. Please see my replys. This is very unfortunate. However, I did learn a very vaulable lesson.

Shaft,
You have demonstrated significant character in dealing with this matter, and for that, I respect you a great deal. Hang in there, buddy, and you will come out smelling like a rose in the end. It is obvious to me that you have a significant number of very fine ladies who have no problems at all with you and will see you anytime you want. Do not let this one provider ruin your day.

SAS

Shaft,
You have demonstrated significant character in dealing with this matter, and for that, I respect you a great deal. Hang in there, buddy, and you will come out smelling like a rose in the end. It is obvious to me that you have a significant number of very fine ladies who have no problems at all with you and will see you anytime you want. Do not let this one provider ruin your day.

SAS Originally Posted by SASpurfan

And Shaft, I think if you read through most of the posts, you'll see that those of us who don't even know you were NOT inclined to believe that you shorted her intentionally.
I also highly doubt that you'll have any trouble seeing whomever you choose.

For what it's worth, I'm very sorry you were subjected to so much shame on every level. ~K

I really appreciate your note. This really hurts. I've tried to be such a good character guy in the hobby. I have so much respect and admiration for "All" the ladies in the Business. I have worked so hard to maintain a stellar reputation and character. I had always thought this was the one place I could escape from the day to day pressures we all face and just have fun. But I guess that place doesn't truly exist. It's just a reminder that it only takes one "Oh SHIT" whether it's true or not, to ruin a ton of "Good Deeds". Now, all of a sudden you're guilty until proven innocent. So unfair, but such is life.

Hang on! You will prevail in the long run.
SAS

So when can we expect Kelly to make a public retraction and apology to this poor gent?