Pretending that this Ukraine nonsense isn't anything less than the perpetuation of the Russia nonsense in another verse to the same dim-retard song is nonsense and earns you no kudos. Trump has a right to defend himself against dim-retard bullshit, and Giuliani was acting as Trump's lawyer by preparing his defense against a possible impeachment in the event Mueller's report was extremely bad.Ukraine is not perpetuation of the Russia nonsense. What Russian nonsense was Trump up to? He told the Russians on national television they should try to dig up Hillary Clinton's emails. And instead of firing James Comey for grandstanding and politicizing the FBI (first favoring Democrats and later Republicans), he made it look like he fired him because he didn't want Comey investigating collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. These things hurt him and the Republican Party. They were stupid. But neither merited a Congressional investigation IMHO.
You might want to check the timeline where Giuliani started his search for evidence BEFORE the Mueller report was released.
Trump is obligated to investigate and prosecute criminal behavior -- even if the culprit is a former vice president. Thomas Jefferson's vice president was brought up on charges and prosecuted.
As Odumbo was issuing executive mandates to curtail drilling in this country he was giving money -- via Quid Pro Joe -- to Hunter Biden and Devon Archer's Burisma to drill an exploit the fossil fuel market with less competition from the U.S. Hunter Biden and Devon Archer profited just fine off the decisions and activities of Odumbo and Quid Pro Joe.
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+1 Originally Posted by I B Hankering
By the standards of those politicians who investigated Hillary Clinton for Benghazi (aside from trying to figure out what went wrong) and Bill Clinton for lying about a blow job, Ukraine merits hearings. The transcript of the call between Trump and Zelensky is perturbing. So are the text messages between Taylor and Sondland, which appear to show that Zelensky needed to say he was going to investigate Burisma in order to get a face-to-face with Trump, and which also bring up the possibility, denied by Sondland, that investigating the Bidens might have been a quid pro quo for military aid.
What's even more perturbing to me is that the president of the United States turned Rudy Giuliani lose with the help of the State Department, and Giuliani tried to buy off the Ukrainian national oil company and maybe Ukrainian prosecutors. Instead of using cash as a currency, Giuliani was using the power and influence of the American presidency, with all that means for a poor country threatened by its neighbor.
As to Hunter Biden, if you want to argue the deal he had going with Burisma stinks to high heaven I'll agree with you. Your arguments about Joe Biden don't hold water. He shouldn't be investigated any more than Trump should have been investigated over Russia.
