The Real Reason(s) The Left Lost

The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
According to the cook report these are the popular vote totals as of today.

Harris 73,886,652. 48.24%
Trump 76,516,791 49.96%

In a country of over 335 million people that’s not exactly a mandate.

Did some people rank anti lgbtq issues as their deciding factor when voting, sure. But it’s likely those people were likely to vote republican anyway.

A number of factors kept people from coming out to vote for Harris. I hesitate to say that “Woke” issues were the deciding factor.

Moslem views on Israel, sticky prices, and the dark propaganda about the border and immigration, in my opinion, were the deciding factors. Originally Posted by txdot-guy

your number is way off. by age and other factors there's only about 235 million eligible voters.


"Based on statistics for 2020, the number of eligible voters in the US was over 231 million people. Of these, approximately 168 million registered to vote, and 154 million actually cast a vote in the 2020 presidential election. This shows that many more people could be registered to vote and cast their vote in the future."

about 88% of registered voters did vote.



woke/DEI was an issue because the Democrats made it an issue. not only is Woke/DEI overt racism it's just stupid and doesn't actually accomplish diversity.


and the only "dark propaganda" about the border was the fact that 10 million illegals were allowed to flood into the country with little to no chance of ever meeting asylum requirements.
txdot-guy's Avatar
your number is way off. by age and other factors there's only about 235 million eligible voters.


"Based on statistics for 2020, the number of eligible voters in the US was over 231 million people. Of these, approximately 168 million registered to vote, and 154 million actually cast a vote in the 2020 presidential election. This shows that many more people could be registered to vote and cast their vote in the future."

about 88% of registered voters did vote.

woke/DEI was an issue because the Democrats made it an issue. not only is Woke/DEI overt racism it's just stupid and doesn't actually accomplish diversity.


and the only "dark propaganda" about the border was the fact that 10 million illegals were allowed to flood into the country with little to no chance of ever meeting asylum requirements. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

You’re taking the wrong message from my post.

Taken from a PBS and a politifact article.
https://www.politifact.com/article/2...harts-provide/

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...ed-in-5-charts

Measured both by vote percentages and by raw votes, Trump’s margin of victory is modest, even compared with this century’s other close elections.

For votes counted through Nov. 20, Trump’s margin over Harris was 1.62 percent. That’s smaller than any winner since Bush in 2000, when the margin was 0.51 percent. Going back further, only John F. Kennedy in 1960 and Nixon in 1968 won the popular vote by smaller margins, 0.17 percent and 0.7 percent, respectively.

On a percentage basis, Trump's 2024 winning margin was the fourth smallest since 1960

Trump's 2024 raw vote margin was smaller than any popular vote winner since 2000, and the fifth-lowest since 1960

In both percentage and raw votes, Trump’s margin is on pace to be less than half of what Biden achieved four years earlier.

Meanwhile, there is ample evidence that Trump’s strong performance at the top of the ticket didn’t boost down-ballot candidates much.


Did Trump win a decisive victory. Yes. Was that victory a mandate from a significant majority. NO!

DEI is at best a minor contributor to the Democratic loss. The Economy was a much bigger and more relevant issue to the majority of the voters on both sides.
Why_Yes_I_Do's Avatar
... is the real reason they lost the election in such a resounding manner.


CNN’s Abby Phillip Says Democrats Have Bigger Problems Than ‘Wokeness’

CNN anchor Abby Phillip said Democrats have bigger problems than just “wokeness,” suggesting that they have catered to the elite class for far too long.

Phillip issued her diagnosis of the Democratic Party’s issues when speaking at the Institute of Politics for the Harvard Kennedy School of Business last week.

“Democrats are in that place now where they have to break out of it, and I think it is a real problem. It’s not as simple as wokeness or whatever. It’s about people who are being incentivized to think about issues in a particular way,” Phillip said.

The CNN anchor said that Democrats could fall victim to “groupthink” if they become too circular in their lines of communication.

“I have observed that elites increasingly talk only to each other and come to believe that because there is consensus among them, that that consensus is shared broadly, and there are not enough voices that are confident enough to disagree and to present alternatives,” she said. “And we as a society need to find better ways to uplift divergent voices. Otherwise, we will be victims of groupthink.”

Phillip chalked the party’s problem up to “elitism in general.”

“There needs to be more courage among people to speak out and to voice diverging opinion. Otherwise, you know, I think it’s a real issue, and it’s not just the Ivy League. I think it’s elitism in general,” she said...