the Oval Office fiasco

Diplomacy and world peace is in the best interest of every human. Ukraine will never defeat Russia using US tax dollars without starting a world war.

The Biden administration started this mess by making Zelensky feel entitle and it backfired against Trump. The mineral deal will bring Putin to the table...and BTW Trump is nobodies punk. You keep your biggest enemy close. Not the way Joe Biden did. He wouldn't even talk to Putin because his war mongers told him not to. Originally Posted by Mr69Jones

Putin started this by invading Crimea

Every person who I've talked to so far who is criticizing Trump and Vance have 1 thing in common. They only saw what the MSM showed, they did not watch the whole thing and see Zelinsky's body language and attitude.

Zelenskyy was supposed to visit Washington DC to sign a mineral deal with Trump. Who knows all the details of what was in the agreement.....


But it turned into something else:


- it sounded like Zelenskyy wanted Trump to acknowledge the ruthlessness and untrustworthyness of Putin, from past agreements dated back to 2014.


- all Trump would do is back up Putin, refuse to call him a dictator, ramble on about how Putin got shortchanged in the Russian influence discussions, and demanded more thanks from Ukraine for the US support.


- Trump then goes on to belittle Zelenskyy, saying he doesn't have the cards and would not have lasted 2 weeks without
US support.


That may be correct, but what is Trump doing making these kinds of statements in an Oval Office setting such as this....




The minerals deal was not signed. We may never know the reason why, or what all was in the proposed agreement. Originally Posted by VitaMan

Whatever . . . .it all \seems to have worked.Zelenski ran off to talk with European leaders . Whatever they told him. perhaps over lunch) he decided to slink back and do what President Trump wants anyway.

So, the "Oval Office Fiasco" worked.

Clinton started this by forcing Ukraine to give up their nuclear missiles. His promise was worthless and even the democrats didn't ratify it agreement.