Attempting to justify our actions by saying "we don't suck as much as these other assholes" is not a very good argument.
We are better than this.
Or...we used to be.
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Originally Posted by rooster
At least one political party is better than this.
As I said, we are that country that fears a knock on the door in the middle of the night.
As absurd as this order is, it takes a backseat to the absurdity of the Biden Administration letting all of these people just stream across the border.
Originally Posted by Jacky S
Oh. Is that a moral decision? Open arms versus Brownshirt Jackboot tactics.
This is all more logic that does not make for a good argument either, sorry.
Biden was an asshole. Obama was an asshole. Saying "Trump gets to be an asshole now too, since they were" doesn't work.
We are fucking better than this!
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Originally Posted by rooster
I would hope so.
Sadly, not anymore.
Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
It's looking like that.
^^^^This.
If someone is comparing us to North Korea, Pakistan, etc...it says a lot - if Trump were to respond it'd be "we're not quite as much of a shithole country as these" That's not winning, it's losing at the very foundational levels our founding fathers fought to establish.
Originally Posted by 69in2it69
donny sure is doing his best to beat the people in the above list for #1 human rights violator in chief.
I'm curiuos for all you that think this is inhumane and cruel what do you think we should do with them? They are certainly capable of entering another country illegally. They do have experience. Do you believe we should just give them a green card and a pathway to citzenship? They are here illegally. They need to get the fuck out on their own or accept whatever deportation the Trump administration orders.
Originally Posted by Budman
You need to comprehend what the guy below is stating.
Regardless who you are, you have certain rights in this country. And the current administration doesn't seem to care about that.
Under the U.S. Constitution and laws, due process requires just and fair treatment of everyone, regardless of background or immigration status, if their life, freedom, or property is at risk.
There should 100% be a pathway to citizenship as long as they have a clean record while in the US and they are working. They collectively pay about 100 billion in taxes and do jobs that many US citizens wont do. They only use about 35 billion in resources.
Originally Posted by royamcr
^^^this^^^
If they are here illegally they should never have a pathway to citizenship. There was never a cry about due process under any other president but now because it is Trump you want to clog up the deportation process so much that hardly anyone would ever be deported.
Immigration reform is certainly needed but that shouldn't mean that all illegals here get a free pass.
Originally Posted by Budman
Well, i'd be all for that if people would practice what they preach. And let's start at the top. donnys roots in this country are well entrenched with illegal entry and leaving their country of origin breaking laws.
And there is absolutely nothing free in getting citizenship. 10-20k in legal fees.
Originally Posted by royamcr
Don't forget the Goldie V
nonsense. no one is being abducted. these people are criminals. criminals don't get abducted ... they get arrested. ...
Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
Let's see. The OED says Abduct means:
take (someone) away by force or deception; kidnap.
Force, check.
Deception, hiding all identifiers of rank, authority, identity, check.
Kidnap, blatantly abusing personal rights, check.
The true criminals are the ones allowing such to happen.
How lucky am I to be corrected TWICE in the same thread? Though not rationally in this case.
But...Yeah. "Arrested." Like they "arrested" people in Guatemala in the 1970's. Masked agents, refusing to show ID, forcing people into unmarked vehicles.
There is no reason for our government to act in these ways. As I said above, they are just playing to the populist rage that they have brought to a fever pitch.
And it would be fascinating to see how you felt if one day you were determined to be a "criminal" and treated like this. Especially if you didn't really meet any credible definition of actually being a criminal.
How predictable that you would defend this. Especially since I spoke out against it.
You've been played. So much so that you don't even understand it any more.
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Originally Posted by rooster
Just reading your post, we ain't more than one step away from having people abducted in the name of fearless leader and disappearing forever like those in banana republics.
So what, you just hate brown people. All the immigrants around me are cool, can't understand a fucking thing they say, but they mow my backyard for $30. White people want $80.
I wasn't talking about how many let in, Biden deported more. There were way more asylum seekers during Biden's term.
Originally Posted by royamcr
Must be. I bet they can't count on one hand the number of european immigrants they've booted.
That's more racist and offensive than any post in this thread. So liberal crocodile tears aren't about the people, it's about money. Check!
When they crossed the border, did they break a law or not? Yes or No, no in between. The answer is Yes they did, and biden, harris, mayorkas were all involved in every instance of a person breaking the law. They are implicit in millions of crimes.
You want to blame somebody, blame the pussies that gave them hope when they were actually breaking the law. Blame the politicians that thought they were above the law and giving the finger to the laws every time a person came on American soil that was illegal.
Millions of seniors are living from the 1st of the month to the 1st of the month, while the liberal politicians were giving these illegals carte blanche with credit cards, phones, comfortable hotels, insurance and every thing else. Millions of seniors gave over 40 years of tax money to support our country, while them, veterans, homeless are shit on because liberal politicians care more about illegals than our own fucking people.
Originally Posted by DEAR_JOHN
Am I the only one who sees the irony in this rant?
Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
I didn't even bother to read it seeing what the poster has been spewing.