When to stop seeing a provider

I wouldn't take his words as exact meaning . I imagine he meant not to treat or expect escorts to treat you the same as a civie date . Not to put words in his mouth , but that was the meaning I got from it .

I find that the term ATF is thrown out by newbies and the obsessed ! Originally Posted by DIE HARD

I'm not a newbie or the obsessive type but I remember using the term in a Layla review, although if I saw her anymore I could definitely end up in the latter column.

I know Reincarnated likes to take girls out. Wine and dine, etc... Like you would a civie girl. She might even tell you that she likes being with you. She might even tell you that you're friends. I'm sure 90% of the time it's just bs. I'm saying don't do what you would normally do with a civie girl. Don't even go there. I'm not saying to treat these ladies like trash. I'm a nice and respectful guy. But I also think I got a rude awakening recently.

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I see very little difference in falling in love with a provider or a sugar baby.... Originally Posted by chipsandsalsa

Huge difference.....

It's pretty easy to develop a Sugar Baby from a pool of ladies that have NEVER sold their bodies previously... that have NEVER danced in a strip club... that have limited sexual experiences more in line with their age and social circles......

Falling in love with a gal "without a history" can have potential that for some, a provider couldn't achieve....

Very few men can realistically wrap their mind around the fact that the gal he loves banged a few hundred guys last year for money and that they could bump into any of those guys any day of the week in almost any setting.... that any of the guys taking a leak in the urinals next to you could have had their dick in her mouth last week...... And knowing that the ex-hooker you are dating could lay down with a half dozen guys tomorrow and replace you is not something a lot of guys handle well....

It's been discussed hundreds of times over the years I've been on these boards and the overall consensus I have seen is that ladies never tell and guys don't want to ever know and just don't see it happening for them...

There are of course exceptions.....

I'm not saying to treat these ladies like trash. I'm a nice and respectful guy. But I also think I got a rude awakening recently. Originally Posted by txAustin202

Sleep walking can lead you down a lot of paths that you won't walk wide awake with your eyes open.

One of Houston's highest rated and most in demand Courtesans that I used to have some heated debates with many, many years ago stated something that put into perspective something I always had thought.

"Any provider will send you on your way after your time with her with a smile on your face basking in the afterglow.

A true Professional... The Provider that cares not only about her business but your welfare as well.... send you on your way after your time with her with a smile on your face basking in the afterglow KNOWING THAT IT WAS AN EXPERIENCE YOU JUST BOUGHT AND PAID FOR AND WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO YOU FOR AS LONG AS YOU HAD THE PRICE OF ADMISSION!"

Too many new girls... young girls..... don't bring a guy back to reality and let them believe they were in some way special.... Doing this is nothing more than a lack of professionalism or worse... Pure Selfishness..... to let you believe something more than your value to them as a Client should be more criminal than the act itself....

One of the best I ever saw used to send me out the door after a loving embrace with a swat on my ass and the comment "Now get back to work and make me some more money so you can bring it back to me next week and we can do it again".... It served to always remind me that her time spent with me was her job....

And I am sure that on some days, just like me, she really did not look forward to work but put on her game face and clocked in and out....


txAustin202... you and I have not seen eye to eye on many things....... you've swung a little way in my direction with your posts today...... Here is a little advice..... Don't let the bitterness that is showing consume you....... Emotions are something you can choose to have and giving someone else the ability to affect those is empowering them...... Why let some $260 an hour hooker have that kind of effect on you?... Shake it off..... hit the gym.... and then go bang some stripper in VIP at 10.....

I can already see the " please don't empower the hooker " sign next to the " please dont feed the animals " one at the zoo. Its sooo not worth it he's right. But hey them $500 a pop ones are worth all the pain !

It is called transcendence, a person recognizes something in their life is changing and realizes nothing can be done about the change.

I know Reincarnated likes to take girls out. Wine and dine, etc... Like you would a civie girl. She might even tell you that she likes being with you. She might even tell you that you're friends. I'm sure 90% of the time it's just bs. I'm saying don't do what you would normally do with a civie girl. Don't even go there. I'm not saying to treat these ladies like trash. I'm a nice and respectful guy. But I also think I got a rude awakening recently. Originally Posted by txAustin202

Point taken, sir. I was completely ruling out the topic of civilian dating in my posts, and only thinking from the provider aspect of this thread.

God knows Ive fallen in and out of love a million times in civie world. Hobby world and Civie World, never the two shall meet.

Hope everything works out for you, TxAustin; I could sense the bitterness in your post; thats why I made my comment...Good luck to you....

Something can always be done. It's when you leave life to chance and a "higher power" that you lose control and become a victim of your own circumstance.

don't be a victim, get direct tv.........

or just go fuck a stripper, best advice so far

Thanks W

Reincarnated, you're the ONLY one who knows yourself the best. This is one tough question...as everyone and their unique situation is so diverse. I think acting on your gut instinct and listening to the voice inside your head...that would be a good start.

If, on the other hand, you're a hopeless romantic...then, be willing to accept the inevitable ending, and learn to ENJOY the ride. Life's too short...at least you can savor the great memories.

I love CS Lewis...a very profound writer and lecturer:

“This is one of the miracles of love: It gives a power of seeing through its own enchantments and yet not being disenchanted.”

thanks everyone.

Think about the stuff in the movies about "love at first sight." Unfortunately, I think it does sometimes happen. Even if it's obviously the wrong woman (or man). Even if the other person doesn't love you. Also "love at 127th sight."

Sometimes the logical part of your brain simply isn't in charge. The instinct to reproduce is a very powerful influence deeply programmed into our genes, our brains, and our being. It's sometimes like a powerful computer virus that overrides our thinking and emotions and accidentally wreaks havoc in our lives and that of those around us.

We can try to do some things to minimize the impact, but the emotional time bomb is always buried down inside.

How to avoid it? I'm not sure. I think sometimes the time bomb goes off no matter what you do. Pleasurable and intimate activities do affect your brain chemically and short circuit your logic.

Think about it. If you had to break it off with a lady, would you have a big emotional hole in your soul, or are you unhappy because you're missing a good fuck? Is it like losing a family member, a beloved pet, or like losing that guy who gave you that really great non-sexual massage that left you floating in relaxation for the rest of the day? If you found another lady who gave you the same quality of service, would you find yourself pining for lady number 1?

If you found another lady with the same quality level of service, but a lower rate, would you switch?

...... be willing to accept the inevitable ending, and learn to ENJOY the ride. Life's too short...at least you can savor the great memories. Originally Posted by Likinikki

That is some great advice.......

I don't always take my own advice and have been guilty of doing a few things I preach against........ then again... I believe myself more practical and better balanced than others.....

I'm on one of those "rides" at the moment......

Reincarnated, hope everything works out for you, and also a thanks for giving all of us a great topic to discuss together, no drama, no backbiting, truly a great discussion back and forth with many members, old and new.

Everyone should Enjoy The Ride as Likkinikki says...