I wish men were more truly passionate...

Speak for yourself. My two minutes of activity is an intense, passionate escape from reality.

My only issue with your post is you confuse passion with virility. Viagra doesn't ensure passion. Just a hard on.

What has to happen for passion to ignite is that both parties have to see that spark first. Communication, flirtation and commonality facilitate that. And no matter how different the people, as long as they're open to it, it can usually be found.

Passion requires trust, and there's no room for that in this business.

My only issue with your post is you confuse passion with virility. Viagra doesn't ensure passion. Just a hard on.

What has to happen for passion to ignite is that both parties have to see that spark first. Communication, flirtation and commonality facilitate that. And no matter how different the people, as long as they're open to it, it can usually be found. Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

All that is in the first 45 seconds of my two minutes ... I work quick and then nap.

I cannot be passionate with a woman unless I am first intimate with her and she reciprocates. I think that the two are interconnected and one leads the other. I've been with a number of providers but only 3 that I have connected with on that level. It's just not something you can will to happen.

I am all passion ... two minutes at a time. Originally Posted by pyramider

With a 10 min nap in between? Originally Posted by zx10

Unless there is taint involved and then it is probably three minutes with a twenty minute nap LOL

+1 FNF - a half hour, hour, ninety minutes is not conducive to passion. I too seek it out or at least affection and fun with a bangin' good time which comes close. In my experience there are two kinds of passion, the immediate spontaneous chemistry gotta have each other and feel like you've known each other for a lifetime or more (very rare, but incredible) or that between two lovers who know each other well and have worked at making it a passionate relationship. With this guy there is also an element of spontaneity that is usually required and it doesn't take off unless it is reciprocated as others here observed. It is a desirable goal however elusive!

In the hobby, I've experienced a few moments of excellent passion and just hope I came close to giving close to as much as I got. I'm no sex expert and don't claim to be, but I do care about the pleasure of my partners, that is a real pleasure for me (IOP or preferably real Os) so I concentrate on that for part of any date and it seems to be to pay off. I hobby to get better too, practice, practice, practice. I find a lot of ladies aren't the "freaks", nymphos, courtesans or concubines they market that they are either so I figure pretty much all of us are just trying to get better at it while either making money, enjoying it or both.

Just my two cents, but I'd take a stab at showing you passion any time you want Zabrina

I cannot be passionate with a woman unless I am first intimate with her and she reciprocates. I think that the two are interconnected and one leads the other. I've been with a number of providers but only 3 that I have connected with on that level. It's just not something you can will to happen. Originally Posted by livn2do

But how do you get to true intimacy? Sharing. I am 100% certain when I accept an appointment that I can deliver true intimacy and passion for one reason: I see something in you that's attractive to me.

If our interactions are like two gladiators thrown in the ring together where you just contacted me 30-90 minutes before we see each other, whatever intimacy we do have is going to be awkward.

That's because most of us have NO IDEA how a woman will respond to it. That's why I enjoy being with a provider. I can worship the female frm the way it's meant to be worshipped, and if she thinks I'm getting too intimate, I never have to see her again. I want to run my lips over every inch of your body, especially your firm ass, breathing lightly to tease you, heading back up to your face every ao often to kiss you. I like girls that are secure enough in their own bodies that they can deal with a guy treating their bodies with the attention they deserve.

But how do you get to true intimacy? Sharing. I am 100% certain when I accept an appointment that I can deliver true intimacy and passion for one reason: I see something in you that's attractive to me.

If our interactions are like two gladiators thrown in the ring together where you just contacted me 30-90 minutes before we see each other, whatever intimacy we do have is going to be awkward. Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

Oh hell, awkward is most of my charm, that and my 1.3" of dangling death.

But how do you get to true intimacy? Sharing. I am 100% certain when I accept an appointment that I can deliver true intimacy and passion for one reason: I see something in you that's attractive to me.

If our interactions are like two gladiators thrown in the ring together where you just contacted me 30-90 minutes before we see each other, whatever intimacy we do have is going to be awkward. Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

Sometimes a date could be days, weeks, months in the making during which time the interaction can be very conducive to stirring passion/lust for two people. This is my preference. However, there can be some confusion between lust and passion. Lust is fleeting...passion lingers....

However, there can be some confusion between lust and passion. Lust is fleeting...passion lingers.... Originally Posted by Ed Highlight

that's what i've been thinking this whole thread. there's a difference between love and lust, and i think people confuse the quite often—especially when it involves grey areas like passion & romance

One of the guys in the Austin forum coined the term IOP: Illusion of Passion. True passion comes with trust, feelings, a real relationship. But somebody that can deliver the IOP can make for a great encounter. Two of my most memorable hobby sessions were my first time with two particular ladies who are great at delivering the IOP, and that causes me to reciprocate.

I'll abide by any restrictions you may have and I won't haggle, but as the client, I can't guarantee passion or the illusion of passion. I won't fake it. It might happen, but I can't predict how I would react to you. Boner, most likely; passion, maybe, maybe not.

I can fake anything.

I can fake anything. Originally Posted by pyramider

I said I won't fake it, not I can't fake it, but I understand your point.

Zabrina, here's another way to look at it...

You are an interactive performance artist where the level of interaction is optional. It sounds like your clients are content to relax and watch the show. You might have to change your show to change the level and quality of interaction, or you might have to find a way to change your clientele to get what you want.

They claim to want passion, to reclaim the missing passion in their personal lives, yet when faced and handed the opportunity, I have observed they have no clue what to do with it Originally Posted by Zabrina Sarafina

Keep in mind that they may want to receive passion or to be treated passionately. Being passionate to/for you may not be high on the list of your clientele.