Has things got this desperate?

For the life of me, I don't understand why any of you lovely ladies are concerned about chicks who charge $50 a pop. That's not your market. They aren't taking your business. They aren't ruining the curve. It's comparing apples to oranges.

It's essentially like me being insecure in my own situation because someone is out there who is only charging $300/hr. it doesn't matter because the situations aren't comparable.

Guys are seeing YOU and paying YOUR rate because you're the girl who turns them on. They are picking you. Why worry about someone who you clearly don't consider to be in the same league?

Set your price. Make yourself worthy of it. Men will pay you whatever they perceive to be your true worth. It's up to YOU to set that standard high.

Price is subjective. Only we as individuals can decide what we are worth. No more no less. The ladies in question likely feel they are worth no more. Generally types like that either have been trained to believe that or have poor self views.

YES Its Terrible , I'm on tour. Lets look at it this way , we really don't want to meet men that see these women. Some towns in Ohio women are walking the streets just for money to feed there kids. Not real street walkers just normal lady's. Originally Posted by JoanJet

More often than not I think we do see the men that see these women ..... i've had regular clients who have admitted more than once to seeing someone that does 50/60 quickies and then they'll see me whose sort of mid-range and then go see a porn star who charges double or triple (or more) what I do. I don't how much crossover like that there is but it happens.

I won't worry about what other females charge. I know that I'm worth every penny and that I bring 7 years of experience to the table. I highly value quality over quantity.

I just think it's the economy driving every chick with a cell phone into thinking she can do this job.
And yes, a lot of them have "handlers" helping them out.
Most of them get bad or lukewarm reviews and seem to burn out and fade away quickly. Originally Posted by sexymaid_69

+1

Everyone has a smartphone

Yeah babe that 40 50 buck is a door fee....
Or a 3 minute drop your droors let me suck you off so I can go buy me a 10 dollar XXX..
My lady and my ex are both photo experts....GREAT ANGLES CAN MAKE ANYBODY LOOK GOOD
so this provider in Dallas payed my ex 100 bucks to come take her pics....for her 50 special on back page her pics looked great and was recent but he almost threw up doing them..
First off she was toothless not one tooth in her head and her pores reaked with what she puts in her body every day..... YEAJ THATS WHAT YOU GET FOR 50 bucks and for that 10 minutes you are in there you are worring about your car being jacked outside.
It just kills me when I drive 6 hr to visit a oil city and pay 200 a night on a hotel and I get asked to run a special or my favorite xxx did it for this amount? Well call her back sugar......
Everybody wants Ruth Chris House steaks at Mc Donalds prices.
I use to have an ad that said NOT ON THE DOLLAR MENU HONEY!

For the life of me, I don't understand why any of you lovely ladies are concerned about chicks who charge $50 a pop. That's not your market. They aren't taking your business. They aren't ruining the curve. It's comparing apples to oranges.

It's essentially like me being insecure in my own situation because someone is out there who is only charging $300/hr. it doesn't matter because the situations aren't comparable.

Guys are seeing YOU and paying YOUR rate because you're the girl who turns them on. They are picking you. Why worry about someone who you clearly don't consider to be in the same league?

Set your price. Make yourself worthy of it. Men will pay you whatever they perceive to be your true worth. It's up to YOU to set that standard high. Originally Posted by LilMynx69

AMEN................. wish everybody thought like you

50 60 isn't always the door fee there are 3 ladies I can think of who aren't toothless "rock"heads who run those quickie rates (seem to have fairly good reps too). 50 60 to get you in the door well sometimes yes sometimes not.

I will say while 50 60 specials don't normally bother me and definitely never make me insecure like I mentioned before there was a place I toured (in SC) where hell my average (to me) rate of 240hr at the time lol you'd think the way MAJORITY (they weren't just guys from BP either) and I mean 95% of those who responded acted like I might as well have been charging 500hr. Imo it's possible for a market in some places to be driven straight into the shitter. Charging well above that lower-priced market can either work for you (draw out the better quality clients) or lol you just learn where to not return to.

In sales (which we are really talking about here) there is "price" and there is "value". There are those customer's who only see price (a Yugo had an engine, 4 wheels and a transmission) and then those that understand that regardless of the amount, have an understanding of the value that good or service brings to us. I see this all the time in my industry, where we sell a recurring monthly service for a fee. Most of our client base has an understanding that when you "bring more to the table' than just the service (long term stability, excellent BBB ratings and industry awards, 24 hour response...) that these are measurable positives and are worth more than what they could find elsewhere on the market. To those that listen to certain consumer pundits who advocate not paying more than "X" for any good or service, then it is strictly a price point issue.
In the case of ladies servicing clients, if one does not look past "busting a nut" with someone other than your own hand, then they have a price viewpoint and could care less what else you bring to the table.

HB

It's a fuckn disgrace

YES Its Terrible , I'm on tour. Lets look at it this way , we really don't want to meet men that see these women. Some towns in Ohio women are walking the streets just for money to feed there kids. Not real street walkers just normal lady's. Originally Posted by JoanJet

Most are not walking the street they are on sugar baby sights or C/L looking for a ''daddy'' to help them................And that adds whole new dynamic to the hobby !!!!!!!

In our area there are a awesome GFE providers in the 160-250 max range.The market will always be a factor.Upper east side of Manhattan will be different than dog-patch Arkansas lol

YES Its Terrible , I'm on tour. Lets look at it this way , we really don't want to meet men that see these women. Some towns in Ohio women are walking the streets just for money to feed there kids. Not real street walkers just normal lady's. Originally Posted by JoanJet

Most are not walking the street they are on sugar baby sights or C/L looking for a ''daddy'' to help them................And that adds whole new dynamic to the hobby !!!!!!!

In our area there are a awesome GFE providers in the 160-250 max range.The market will always be a factor.Upper east side of Manhattan will be different than dog-patch Arkansas lol Originally Posted by flyinghillbilly

Contrary to the Pretty Woman stereotype, most women find themselves on the street because of substance abuse. Regardless of the economy, I can count on one hand the number of ladies I've seen on the street who were sober.

I think FlyHill is correct about them doing other things for money, which he correctly suggests adds yet a whole we dynamic. Actually one that might effect business here.

I think FlyHill is correct about them doing other things for money, which he correctly suggests adds yet a whole we dynamic. Actually one that might effect business here. Originally Posted by LilMynx69

The internet continues to empower people. The old model was women on the streets, or women advertising in magazines/newspapers, etc. Those people migrated to the internet and so did their clientele. But that's not the new model, that's just people using the technology to replicate the old model in cyberspace. Empowering to an extent, but not revolutionary.

What's new is that women and men can come to the market and carve out a new niche. Call it sugar daddy, low-profile, UTR providing, or whatever - it is different. It allows women who are not going to stand on a real or virtual street-corner to find guys who are looking for them. I don't know how many new clients it brings in to the market, but it certainly brings a lot of new women in.

The internet continues to empower people. The old model was women on the streets, or women advertising in magazines/newspapers, etc. Those people migrated to the internet and so did their clientele. But that's not the new model, that's just people using the technology to replicate the old model in cyberspace. Empowering to an extent, but not revolutionary.

What's new is that women and men can come to the market and carve out a new niche. Call it sugar daddy, low-profile, UTR providing, or whatever - it is different. It allows women who are not going to stand on a real or virtual street-corner to find guys who are looking for them. I don't know how many new clients it brings in to the market, but it certainly brings a lot of new women in. Originally Posted by Captain Correlli

Great insight. Excellent synopsis of the state of the hobby...ever evolving.

There are a lot single mom's or busy collage girls out there that like having little extra helping hand and a good ''release'' So being a sugar baby is less of a stigma in there mind than being a escort. There attitudes are more like having G/F relationship. More real passion the guy feels a lot less like a ATM.