The Trumpster's deportations

A level of evasion only bested in SERE school. Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

What a hypocrite, speaking of evasion. You wouldn't answer when I ask when did America become not Great.

Read the article. It a tale of what happens when your population declines.

https://www.derekthompson.org/p/the-...ould-shrink-in
The US Population Could Shrink in 2025, For the First Time Ever

It's a story with massive economic and political significance. But it's receiving strangely little attention.

The United States is on the precipice of a historic, if dubious, achievement. If current trends hold, 2025 could be the first year on record in which the US population actually shrinks.
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Whoever wins the next few elections will face the same arithmetic. The U.S. cannot grow through native-born fertility alone. As immigration collapses, the US population will stagnate and even shrink. Urban economics will buckle. Fields will go unharvested. Homes will go unbuilt. Sick Americans will go untreated. Life-saving medicines will go undiscovered. Many voters hated the era of record immigration. They might hate the era of record deportations even more. Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Clearly this is a huge issue. We need pro-family policies, such as they have in Hungary, and selective immigration of those who have something to contribute and who will be disallowed from the social safety nets intended for American born citizens.

What a hypocrite, speaking of evasion. You wouldn't answer when I ask when did America become not Great. Originally Posted by 1#Ratt

When was that?

https://www.nbcnews.com/data-graphic...ngs-rcna189148

Latest stats on how Trump's deportation efforts are going

Read the article. It a tale of what happens when your population declines.

https://www.derekthompson.org/p/the-...ould-shrink-in
The US Population Could Shrink in 2025, For the First Time Ever

It's a story with massive economic and political significance. But it's receiving strangely little attention.

The United States is on the precipice of a historic, if dubious, achievement. If current trends hold, 2025 could be the first year on record in which the US population actually shrinks.
…
Whoever wins the next few elections will face the same arithmetic. The U.S. cannot grow through native-born fertility alone. As immigration collapses, the US population will stagnate and even shrink. Urban economics will buckle. Fields will go unharvested. Homes will go unbuilt. Sick Americans will go untreated. Life-saving medicines will go undiscovered. Many voters hated the era of record immigration. They might hate the era of record deportations even more. Originally Posted by txdot-guy

... What a laughable joke! ... What's wrong with the
population shrinking? ... NOTHING! ...
There's too many people living on Government handouts
and dole relief NOW.

... Questions abound:

... How and Why will urban economics buckle??
... Which homes will go unbuilt??
... Why would sick Americans go untreated??
... How would life-saving medicines go undiscovered??

Please explain.

#### Salty

... What a laughable joke! ... What's wrong with the
population shrinking? ... NOTHING! ...
There's too many people living on Government handouts
and dole relief NOW.

... Questions abound:

... How and Why will urban economics buckle??
... Which homes will go unbuilt??
... Why would sick Americans go untreated??
... How would life-saving medicines go undiscovered??

Please explain.

#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again

If you want to research the topic of an aging population and a falling birth rate try this article. Suffice it to say that the subject is complex. It includes a number of topics that need to be considered.

Some people may not like immigration but immigrants tend to be hard working and prolific. The trick is to keep immigration consistent enough to keep our birth rates high enough to replace our workforce as our population ages. This requires good schools and the ability to integrate immigrants children into our society so that they see themselves as Americans first and foremost.

Unfortunately the Trump administration’s scare tactics and fear mongering are not helping the country.

https://academiaworldnews.com/unders...ies-worldwide/

Understanding the Implications of Population Aging: Challenges and Opportunities for Societies and Economies Worldwide

Effects on Economic Growth
Effects on the Labor Force
Effects on Productivity
Pensions and Social Security
Technology and Innovation
Immigration
Social Cohesion
Impact on the healthcare workforce
Impact on intergenerational relationships

... What a laughable joke! ... What's wrong with the
population shrinking? ... NOTHING! ...
There's too many people living on Government handouts
and dole relief NOW.

... Questions abound:

... How and Why will urban economics buckle??
... Which homes will go unbuilt??
... Why would sick Americans go untreated??
... How would life-saving medicines go undiscovered??

Please explain.

#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again

I’ve gotta agree with Tx here, Salty. A declining population has never been a positive thing for a nation, very much the opposite. On the other side of the same coin, replacing a population with an indigent, incompatible culture is just as bad. In 40 years or so places like Germany and the UK will be indistinguishable from Iran. Were we to stick with democrat principles to push back against a declining population, the USA will become indistinguishable from El Salvador. This is why we need to implement things like Poland’s Family 500+ program.

Salvadorans only account for 3% of the total foreign born population and most are here legally.

Even without revoking their TPS and deporting them the U.S. would not resemble El Salvador within 40 years. Your math doesn't math any better than how Trump is going to get to 1 million deportations in a year

I’ve gotta agree with Tx here, Salty. A declining population has never been a positive thing for a nation, very much the opposite. On the other side of the same coin, replacing a population with an indigent, incompatible culture is just as bad. In 40 years or so places like Germany and the UK will be indistinguishable from Iran. Were we to stick with democrat principles to push back against a declining population, the USA will become indistinguishable from El Salvador. This is why we need to implement things like Poland’s Family 500+ program. Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

... I do see some of TxDot's complaint here.... And yet,
the population has the normal ebb and flow, anyway.

Articles there like the one TxDot references are the
worst-case affect... While we're all surely forgettin'
one thing - we can ADD to the population with LEGAL
IMMIGRATION - which can continue to happen.

And THAT can off-set any "drop in population" concerns.

#### Salty

Salvadorans only account for 3% of the total foreign born population and most are here legally.

Even without revoking their TPS and deporting them the U.S. would not resemble El Salvador within 40 years. Your math doesn't math any better than how Trump is going to get to 1 million deportations in a year Originally Posted by HDGristle

Seriously? You’re not perceptive enough to realize that El Salvador was used as a synecdoche of the 3rd world in general?

Seriously? You’re not perceptive enough to realize that El Salvador was used as a synecdoche of the 3rd world in general? Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

I'm perceptive enough to know that you want to distract with FUD and reductio ad absurdum instead of talking about Trump's deportation numbers.

Shouldn't he be double Obama by now?

Absolutely. The more illegals thrown out the merrier.

So why does it seem like he's struggling so hard to find criminals to deport?

So why does it seem like he's struggling so hard to find criminals to deport? Originally Posted by HDGristle

Beats the hell out of me. He’s obviously facing a shit ton of resistance from people who'd rather live in a South American flophouse than an actual country. Afaic they’re all criminals if they came illegally. Glad to hear that we’re simpatico on needing to kick enforcement up 100 notches. He’s done an amazing job stopping the bleeding, it’s time to get the illegals out by hook, crook or trebuchet.

He promised to prioritize the worst of the worst. Meanwhile he's using a DUI from 12 years ago with no subsequent offenses to try to strip people's green cards and deport them. Deporting even good, God-fearing Christians to bump up those numbers.

He's made America less attractive. Except for you