Inquiries and Impeachment of Trump

Chung Tran's Avatar
I'm not sure whether Giuliani is the defense lawyer or the politico, but either way that's not what this looks like. It looks like the lawyer is trying to engage the State Department, the Justice Department, and a foreign government to help investigate laughable claims about his clients' political opponents. And the client offered a reward (face to face meeting) and was contemplating making a threat (withholding aid) to induce the cooperation of the foreign government.

And this doesn't make you question the man's judgement? Originally Posted by Tiny
this..

and by the way, if Giuliani's mission was so noble, why was it a secret for many months? if Trump was really having Biden investigated for corruption, why not say so months ago? why the shadowy nature? we only found out after the transcript revelation, which makes Trump look more and more guilty.
I B Hankering's Avatar
this..

and by the way, if Giuliani's mission was so noble, why was it a secret for many months? if Trump was really having Biden investigated for corruption, why not say so months ago? why the shadowy nature? we only found out after the transcript revelation, which makes Trump look more and more guilty.
Originally Posted by Chung Tran
Why do you delusionally imagine that you have any right to know what case a defense lawyer is preparing before the case is brought to court? What makes you so fucking special?
  • Tiny
  • 10-23-2019, 05:13 PM
IB Hankering, If you want to phrase it that way, fine, the Russians were out to get Hillary, not to support Trump. They probably did it a little more enthusiastically knowing the alternative was Donald Trump instead of, say, Lindsey Graham or John McCain. I do not believe Trump is indebted to Russia, and agree with his aim, stymied by others, to improve relations between the USA and Russia.

I haven't read or analyzed the Steele Dossier. All I know is that some of the claims reported by the press, like Trump getting two prostitutes to urinate on a bed because Barrack Obama slept there, are laughable.
Chung Tran's Avatar
Why do you delusionally imagine that you have any right to know what case a defense lawyer is preparing before the case is brought to court? What makes you so fucking special? Originally Posted by I B Hankering
what defense lawyer? you think Guiliani went to the Ukraine to defend Trump? wtf are you talking about? nonsense, per usual.
  • Tiny
  • 10-23-2019, 05:28 PM
what defense lawyer? you think Guiliani went to the Ukraine to defend Trump? wtf are you talking about? nonsense, per usual. Originally Posted by Chung Tran
I guess you could make that point about Crowd Strike. The flaw in the analogy would be that Trump was never accused of a crime. It was people within the Russian intelligence service, the GRU, that were accused of hacking the Democrats' email accounts.
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
I'm not sure whether Giuliani is the defense lawyer or the politico, but either way that's not what this looks like. It looks like the lawyer is trying to engage the State Department, the Justice Department, and a foreign government to help investigate laughable claims about his clients' political opponents. And the client offered a reward (face to face meeting) and was contemplating making a threat (withholding aid) to induce the cooperation of the foreign government.

And this doesn't make you question the man's judgement? Originally Posted by Tiny

what's laughable about it? Biden is on video bragging he forced out the Ukraine State Prosecutor with a direct threat to withhold aid. Biden's claim that there were no investigations into Burisma at the time is proven false. Biden's claim he wasn't aware of his son's business dealings with Ukraine are also proven false, by his own son's interview. seems Corn Pop Jr is s poor liar. at least Daddy Corn Pop can use the "I'm old and losing my mind" excuse. isn't at least a little bit suspicious that Hunter Biden gets these sweet deals with both Ukraine (Burisma) and China while Biden is the sitting VP? Hunter Biden is a lawyer so you can't say he's completely unqualified but he has no prior history of legal work in the Energy sector and international law. finally there is nothing illegal or improper about Trump using Giuliani as a personal envoy. we know that previous attempts by Ukrainians to provide information about potential corruption were rebuffed by State Dept. officials. so why would Trump trust them now? he certainly wouldn't be the first president not to trust the State Dept and use personal envoys. certainly not illegal or improper. finally why would Shokin's words under oath in a deposition claiming there were ongoing investigations and that he was forced out by Biden to prevent his investigation from looking into Hunter Biden's board membership at Burisma be discounted matter of hand by the words of his successor as State Prosecutor? perhaps because his successor's words bolster Biden's statements which are themselves false?
  • Tiny
  • 10-23-2019, 05:48 PM
what's laughable about it? Biden is on video bragging he forced out the Ukraine State Prosecutor with a direct threat to withhold aid. Biden's claim that there were no investigations into Burisma at the time is proven false. Biden's claim he wasn't aware of his son's business dealings with Ukraine are also proven false, by his own son's interview. seems Corn Pop Jr is s poor liar. at least Daddy Corn Pop can use the "I'm old and losing my mind" excuse. isn't at least a little bit suspicious that Hunter Biden gets these sweet deals with both Ukraine (Burisma) and China while Biden is the sitting VP? Hunter Biden is a lawyer so you can't say he's completely unqualified but he has no prior history of legal work in the Energy sector and international law. finally there is nothing illegal or improper about Trump using Giuliani as a personal envoy. we know that previous attempts by Ukrainians to provide information about potential corruption were rebuffed by State Dept. officials. so why would Trump trust them now? he certainly wouldn't be the first president not to trust the State Dept and use personal envoys. certainly not illegal or improper. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
We don't agree about much on this, except that Hunter Biden isn't completely unqualified. He's uniquely qualified. Say you're a corrupt Ukrainian Kleptocrat. You want to clean up your image and keep doing business after the politicians you used to be in bed with are kicked out of power. Hunter Biden's father is squeaky clean Joe Biden, who happens to be Vice President of the the United States of America. The people in power would love nothing better than to throw your ass in jail, but they're dependent on the USA for survival. (Although much to your good fortune they did pick a corrupt or inept prosecutor who pigeon holed your case.)

Anyway if the son of the Vice President of the USA is on your board, maybe that's a little insurance. Also Hunter Biden is a dashing figure whose photo looks good in an annual report. And he doesn't know much about your industry so he'll vote the way you want him to.

That's why I said Hunter Biden's directorship stinks to high heaven. Agreed. The conspiracy theorists who got from that to Joe Biden holding up a $1 billion loan guarantee to protect his son though have done way too much acid.
I B Hankering's Avatar
what defense lawyer? you think Guiliani went to the Ukraine to defend Trump? wtf are you talking about? nonsense, per usual. Originally Posted by Chung Tran
It's not a matter what I think. Guiliani is already on record as stating that was one of the reasons he went over there initially. The only nonsense here is in your sputtering about matters about which you are totally ignorant.


IB Hankering, If you want to phrase it that way, fine, the Russians were out to get Hillary, not to support Trump. They probably did it a little more enthusiastically knowing the alternative was Donald Trump instead of, say, Lindsey Graham or John McCain. I do not believe Trump is indebted to Russia, and agree with his aim, stymied by others, to improve relations between the USA and Russia.

I haven't read or analyzed the Steele Dossier. All I know is that some of the claims reported by the press, like Trump getting two prostitutes to urinate on a bed because Barrack Obama slept there, are laughable.
Originally Posted by Tiny
The Russians were already hacking the DNC servers before Trump was the announced Republican candidate. The Russians didn't do a damn thing for Trump that they weren't already planning to do before Trump was the announced candidate. So it's bullshit to claim that the Russian objective was to help Trump, and that argument is further prima facie false in light of the Russian sourced Steele dossier that was wholly directed against Trump.

The ONLY objective the Russians had was to sow discord with the American electoral process -- and Putin scored a bonanza with the dim-retards as they've done nothing but Putin's bidding since the 2016 election.



I guess you could make that point about Crowd Strike. The flaw in the analogy would be that Trump was never accused of a crime. It was people within the Russian intelligence service, the GRU, that were accused of hacking the Democrats' email accounts. Originally Posted by Tiny
At the time Guiliani was initially doing what he was doing it was up in the air as to whether Mueller would bring charges against Trump. Forewarned is forearmed.
Jaxson66's Avatar
.Reports: Ukraine felt early Trump pressure and knew of military aid freeze

https://www.axios.com/ukraine-trump-...8bfc7eb12.html

Another Freedom caucus lie exposed. It’s amazing how many lies a trumptards brain will accept as reality.
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
We don't agree about much on this, except that Hunter Biden isn't completely unqualified. He's uniquely qualified. Say you're a corrupt Ukrainian Kleptocrat. You want to clean up your image and keep doing business after the politicians you used to be in bed with are kicked out of power. Hunter Biden's father is squeaky clean Joe Biden, who happens to be Vice President of the the United States of America. The people in power would love nothing better than to throw your ass in jail, but they're dependent on the USA for survival. (Although much to your good fortune they did pick a corrupt or inept prosecutor who pigeon holed your case.)

Anyway if the son of the Vice President of the USA is on your board, maybe that's a little insurance. Also Hunter Biden is a dashing figure whose photo looks good in an annual report. And he doesn't know much about your industry so he'll vote the way you want him to.

That's why I said Hunter Biden's directorship stinks to high heaven. Agreed. The conspiracy theorists who got from that to Joe Biden holding up a $1 billion loan guarantee to protect his son though have done way too much acid. Originally Posted by Tiny

Corn Pop is squeaky clean? so he doesn't need extra strength Charmin to wipe his dirty ass? Hmm. maybe i'll sell that Proctor & Gamble stock. i was so certain Biden goes through a 4 pack a day to wipe that ass.

when a conspiracy theory is proven true is it still a conspiracy theory or fact?

inquiring kool aid drinkers want to know.
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
.Reports: Ukraine felt early Trump pressure and knew of military aid freeze

https://www.axios.com/ukraine-trump-...8bfc7eb12.html

Another Freedom caucus lie exposed. It’s amazing how many lies a trumptards brain will accept as reality. Originally Posted by Jaxson66

"A pair of anonymously sourced reports published Wednesday indicate that the Ukrainian government felt pressure from the Trump administration to pursue investigations into the president's political rivals in the U.S. earlier than previously known."


i write anonymously sourced reports too. care to read one?


https://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=89162
  • Tiny
  • 10-23-2019, 08:00 PM
"A pair of anonymously sourced reports published Wednesday indicate that the Ukrainian government felt pressure from the Trump administration to pursue investigations into the president's political rivals in the U.S. earlier than previously known."


i write anonymously sourced reports too. care to read one?


https://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=89162 Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
That's the best piece of work we've seen from you. You need to write more anonymously sourced reports.

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eccieuser9500's Avatar
https://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=89162 Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

After all the crap you post on here none stop with no life you're expecting Us tobelieve this review. Lol I don't. I think you just got tired of people saying you're a looser on a ho bored with no life. Originally Posted by HoustonRiley
Speaking of Anonymous, I heard he/she is coming out with an explosively revealing new book.
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
Speaking of Anonymous, I heard he/she is coming out with an explosively revealing new book. Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

you should havea session with her, she's in Htown and doesn't have a no AA policy. and she's a PAWG. just yer type, right? you can tell us if she's an N girl.


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eccieuser9500's Avatar
you should havea session with her, she's in Htown and doesn't have a no AA policy. and she's a PAWG. just yer type, right? you can tell us if she's an N girl.


BAHHAHAAAA Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
Funny! Not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_asNhzXq72w