why one guy "knows" why other guys pay providers for sex

Suiram77 - this was not directed at you. I do not believe you were they one that attempted to apply the Pareto principle in demeaning others.

You clearly misunderstood my post and if I played a role in adding to it, I am sorry.

However, since you mentioned looking at my reviews; you could notice that I do not use terms like Hoe, Hooker, Slut, Whore etc. when referring to a provider. Sure, that is the label society puts on the profession and I am not about to start a campaign against it, but I feel that those are derogatory terms and I do not feel it is appropriate at least for me to demean the ladies for the very act that I requested from them, went through screening and finally paid for. Nor do I seek out providers for bragging rights. I love the company of beautiful women and generally when they are able to make me feel happy (yes, happy!) I try to write a review to share my happiness and also for the 6 weeks of premium access it get me so that I can read about the fantastic exploits of guys who are far richer than me, much more handsome than I ever was, have dicks so large that it basically come out the other side and have drank from the fountain of youth that they are perpetually 25 years old. Because those are the guys that we all dreamed to be as kids but could never become. Maybe life has been kind to you and you are one of the lucky few? As for me, I suppose that's all I have to be content with cause maybe "I ain't shit"! Originally Posted by johnspice

Ok well the shit certainly didn't come off that way, but ok cool. As far as what you call women on a hooker site that's your right and choice and I have mine. I use the words I use because, I'm actually one of the very few here that realize that the hobby world is a huge fantasy and is not real. I don't allow myself to get caught up in the political correct bull shit or what is the proper way to address an escort. Fuck all that man I'm here to have fun and see some lovely ass women, ladies, girls, thots, hookers, bitches, hoes, freaks. Out of 710 providers in Dallas alone, there most definitely will be some that will fall under each of those names. Good day

I don't mind someone calling me old and fat. Hell, I am old and fat. I'm not on ED meds yet, but the thought has crossed my mind a few times.

My point in the other thread was that I felt Analeese had requested reasons to be presented by the guys, which would likely be a different reason from each guy. People started answering, and then JGW chimed in with a, "to be honest..." phrase before giving his opinion on why every other man was there - besides him and the other few young studs, of course.

I was simply stating that maybe JGW should let the men answer for themselves. But instead, he makes a statement in such a way that if an old fat guy has another reason for being here, he must be a liar or delusional. Because, "it's a fact" that if these men were "to be honest" they would answer that they were here because they "had no other choice".

The way he stated his original comment, and others afterwards, it was sure to strike a nerve with people that wanted to answer for themselves, whether they were truthful in his opinion or not.

But, hey, if it makes you feel better JGW, I probably would have a hard time scoring with a hot-as-hell 20 year old in real life unless I threw down some major cash one way or another. However, the last time J*** gave me a massage and rubbed my little wiener, she didn't look all that hot, and definitely wasn't 20 years old. Truthfully, I could probably score with J*** in the real world after a decent dinner date, but I gladly pay for her services instead. So, yes, it's possible for even some of us old fat guys to have other reasons to be here, and I think the least someone could do is let us answer for ourselves.

Now, my short, fat, old thumbs are tired, so I'll leave it at that and ignore these to threads.

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I don't mind someone calling me old and fat. Hell, I am old and fat. I'm not on ED meds yet, but the thought has crossed my mind a few times.

My point in the other thread was that I felt Analeese had requested reasons to be presented by the guys, which would likely be a different reason from each guy. People started answering, and then JGW chimed in with a, "to be honest..." phrase before giving his opinion on why every other man was there - besides him and the other few young studs, of course.

I was simply stating that maybe JGW should let the men answer for themselves. But instead, he makes a statement in such a way that if an old fat guy has another reason for being here, he must be a liar or delusional. Because, "it's a fact" that if these men were "to be honest" they would answer that they were here because they "had no other choice".

The way he stated his original comment, and others afterwards, it was sure to strike a nerve with people that wanted to answer for themselves, whether they were truthful in his opinion or not.

But, hey, if it makes you feel better JGW, I probably would have a hard time scoring with a hot-as-hell 20 year old in real life unless I threw down some major cash one way or another. However, the last time J*** gave me a massage and rubbed my little wiener, she didn't look all that hot, and definitely wasn't 20 years old. Truthfully, I could probably score with J*** in the real world after a decent dinner date, but I gladly pay for her services instead. So, yes, it's possible for even some of us old fat guys to have other reasons to be here, and I think the least someone could do is let us answer for ourselves.

Now, my short, fat, old thumbs are tired, so I'll leave it at that and ignore these to threads. Originally Posted by ElBombero

Just give it a rest pal. I tell you what go to any strip club of your choice ask about 10 dancers why are they stripping, about 9 of the 10 will tell you they are trying to make extra money for tuition and I bet you believe it too.

Here's another one- you do believe a good percentage of ladies are managed/pimped etc, but have you ever heard one say : "Yes I am pimped..."

If you want to believe that majority of strippers are dancing to pay for college tuition and no escorts have pimps and that the majority of men on this site have little to no choice but to pay for sex to fulfill their fantasy than go ahead and live in your bubble.

Just give it a rest pal. I tell you what go to any strip club of your choice ask about 10 dancers why are they stripping, about 9 of the 10 will tell you they are trying to make extra money for tuition and I bet you believe it too.

Here's another one- you do believe a good percentage of ladies are managed/pimped etc, but have you ever heard one say : "Yes I am pimped..."

If you want to believe that majority of strippers are dancing to pay for college tuition and no escorts have pimps and that the majority of men on this site have little to no choice but to pay for sex to fulfill their fantasy than go ahead and live in your bubble. Originally Posted by J.G Wentworth

Got Damn JG don't do them like that. It's very clear you wayyyy to smart for them lol. JG let them go ahead and dance in their own reality. haha

You stoop to levels to harass providers like Tara Evans, you did the same to Mya Michelle, BrownSugarBaby and many more providers.
You have been banned more times than any other hobbyist that I know you fucking loser. Originally Posted by J.G Wentworth

at least Manslut didn't run away from a former handle, as you obviously did.. he is who he is.. who are you? joined this month, but you know his complete ECCIE history?

at least Manslut didn't run away from a former handle, as you obviously did.. he is who he is.. who are you? joined this month, but you know his complete ECCIE history? Originally Posted by Chung Tran

Mandle

Dude - pussy is never free , houses cars etc the hobby is just a little more forward

Just give it a rest pal. I tell you what go to any strip club of your choice ask about 10 dancers why are they stripping, about 9 of the 10 will tell you they are trying to make extra money for tuition and I bet you believe it too.

Here's another one- you do believe a good percentage of ladies are managed/pimped etc, but have you ever heard one say : "Yes I am pimped..."

If you want to believe that majority of strippers are dancing to pay for college tuition and no escorts have pimps and that the majority of men on this site have little to no choice but to pay for sex to fulfill their fantasy than go ahead and live in your bubble. Originally Posted by J.G Wentworth

I'm trying to understand why all this even matters. I would dare say most here are pragmatic and desire the simplest, most efficient method of acquiring what they want. Big deal if it violates your natural selection macho mentality.....and the bubble you've created around yourself that fulfilling these fantasies is commensurate to verifying manhood. It's really much more simple than you are making it out to be, and ironically, it starts with the same premise of natural selection that you seem hung up on as sanctimonious. You apparently think that bartering in cash somehow violates this natural selection process, but in actuality, the opposite is true. Men are acquiring the best they can get, and when the money is factored in, so are the ladies. So, rationalize all you want.....but consider me one of those that chooses the shortest route from A to B.

"Rationalization is a process of not perceiving reality, but of attempting to make reality fit one’s emotions."
— Ayn Rand

what it comes down to, is Wentworth is a conformist.. he believes you are beneath him if you don't obtain pussy through the proper mechanism that society has sanctioned. the general rules are that good pussy is reserved for guys that are a select combination of handsome, powerful, or monied.

you still pay for pussy, but society has given you the right to characterize it differently.. those who consider themselves to be obeying the rules are offended when the rules are skirted through pay-for-play internet sites. that diminishes their feeling of self-worth.

what it comes down to, is Wentworth is a conformist.. he believes you are beneath him if you don't obtain pussy through the proper mechanism that society has sanctioned. the general rules are that good pussy is reserved for guys that are a select combination of handsome, powerful, or monied.

you still pay for pussy, but society has given you the right to characterize it differently.. those who consider themselves to be obeying the rules are offended when the rules are skirted through pay-for-play internet sites. that diminishes their feeling of self-worth. Originally Posted by Chung Tran

Amen

at least Manslut didn't run away from a former handle, as you obviously did.. he is who he is.. who are you? joined this month, but you know his complete ECCIE history? Originally Posted by Chung Tran

How do you know my precious handle wasn't compromised or my prior handle guested? You ASSume too much. It's very sad that you WK for ManPussy he's a big boy (literally) let him fend for himself.

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How do you know my precious handle wasn't compromised or my prior handle guested? Originally Posted by J.G Wentworth

I don't know, but I'm generally suspicious about guys who change handles.. there are many on ECCIE that are out to game, that have agendas other than paying for pussy. if your handle was compromised, why not say that? at least Manslut, love him or hate him, comes back as himself when his bans are over.

what it comes down to, is Wentworth is a conformist.. he believes you are beneath him if you don't obtain pussy through the proper mechanism that society has sanctioned. the general rules are that good pussy is reserved for guys that are a select combination of handsome, powerful, or monied.

you still pay for pussy, but society has given you the right to characterize it differently.. those who consider themselves to be obeying the rules are offended when the rules are skirted through pay-for-play internet sites. that diminishes their feeling of self-worth. Originally Posted by Chung Tran

Ok Mr Tran you are so correct, I am pretty sure in all of your triple digit reviews you just had so much extra income that you decided to pay not because you had to but because you are just a generous guy.

I am pretty sure Mr.Tran when you go out ain public ladies are salivating and their pussies get so wet when you are in their presence. You truly are a chic magnet and could screw girls left and right for free if you wanted too right ?

Let me explain something to you Mr.Tran I travel virtually all over the country and the world for that matter and in my life have screwed many beautiful ladies by not spending a dime or if you want to get technical perhaps buying a few drinks. There are a small portion of men on this on site who if this site never existed could screw beautiful ladies without spending a dime, but you surely are not one of them to be honest.

Mr. Tran you do know that every provider you have seen is screwing someone for free right ? Surely these providers have boyfriends or in some cases husbands who are not shelling out their donation fee every time he has sex with her ?

The reality is there are men like you who have to pay to screw a beautiful lady. Last time I checked you are no Brad Pitt neither am I but I assure you I am a helluva lot closer to him than you and easy on the hi.

I have talked to providers all over the country and the tune is all the same wherever I go. They say the average hobbyist is typically an over weight older guy and many with erection and ED issues.

This is one reason why I give a lot of respect to GFE providers who consistently get great reviews. Hobbyist have the advantage of knowing exactly what she looks like whereas the providers have no clue on the looks of the hobbyist.

You are sadly mistaken if the average hobbyist that knocks on a providers door is some young, handsome, great body well hung male swim suit model. NO!!! It's more than likely an older out of shape man who knows the only chance he has with a beautiful lady is to pay for sex.

Everyone attacking me is obviously part of the 80 percent so I get it guys.

Chung how many of your triple digit ladies have you seen so you really think you could screw outside the hobby without paying her donation ?

Please answer the above question and I will digress.

I don't know, but I'm generally suspicious about guys who change handles.. there are many on ECCIE that are out to game, that have agendas other than paying for pussy. if your handle was compromised, why not say that? at least Manslut, love him or hate him, comes back as himself when his bans are over. Originally Posted by Chung Tran

Why do I need to say anything? It's my privacy and my account. Perhaps I want some discretion have you ever thought about one's privacy? You somehow assume that just because a person has only been on the site for 1 month that they are perhaps "new" to hobbying? That is far from the truth just like you have guys who have been on this site for many years and have only 1 or no reviews, it doesn't mean they haven't seen other ladies. I honestly only do a review if a lady insist that I review her or if I just have a totally bad experience that I think other hobbyist should be aware. I have not or never will be a huge review person and nothing against guys who have tons of reviews.