...or sit still and take notes. Originally Posted by nevergaveitathoughtOn toilet paper?
If I were taking notes from you or nevergivesitathought it would have to be on toilet paper with all the caca you two come up with! Originally Posted by WTFI'm out in the middle of nowhere trying to help get the price of oil down, which will only help Obama right now, freezing my tail off, typing on a tiny cell phone and you revert to your favorite fallback small boy's humor of Spanish excrement
The progressive income tax punishes work and rewards sloth. It's fundamentally a bad idea. We would be better off with a flat rate; or better yet, get rid of the income tax completely, and replace it with a national sales tax. Originally Posted by joe bloeCan't say that I agree with the concept of either the Flat Tax or National Sales Tax or even the VAT tax. There are more variables to consider than merely the underachievement of the majority. Industry influenced the education system to gear public education to feed factory jobs, so it is not as simple as it looks. Listen to Boortz analysis of the public education system and you will see what I mean. It is an amazing history that most people have no idea ever happened. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCx7DmJ5GQQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkT0k57tAHo&feature=re lated Have you looked at the Fair Tax? After many years of debates I seldom venture into political forums anymore, I find them too depressing. Today has been an exception.
News flash, Patrick Henry is dead.You are not describing liberty. You are describing fascism, or "crony capitalism" which is how it is currently being practiced in the US. This is happening because the Big Business and Government have become too intertwined. It is NOT liberty!
I do not care for your form of liberty joe blow. The transfer of wealth from the middle class to the wealthy is not my idea of liberty. Originally Posted by WTF
You are not describing liberty. You are describing fascism, or "crony capitalism" which is how it is currently being practiced in the US. This is happening because the Big Business and Government have become too intertwined. It is NOT liberty!Exactly
. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
As do you old man, as do you.
And the idea of "one man's liberty is another man's tyranny" is about the stupidest thing posted ever on this board. Liberty is antithetical to tyranny. You know nothing of what liberty is, you think it is only when things go your way. Idiot. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
I'm out in the middle of nowhere trying to help get the price of oil down, which will only help Obama right now, freezing my tail off, typing on a tiny cell phone and you revert to your favorite fallback small boy's humor of Spanish excrement Originally Posted by nevergaveitathoughtDon't forget to wipe the caca off your cell phone!
Actually, WDF, I want people to be free, even if I don't agree with them. I'm not like you, so please don't project on me. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuyYou do not want people to be free, you want people to think like you and you project that folks like me do not want liberty when it does not match yout idea of liberty. But I'm sure that small point will go over your head...
People generally judge others by their own standards .. this is no exception. Originally Posted by LexusLoverOh yea, I do not care for some of you righties form of Liberty.
Oh yea, I do not care for some of you righties form of Liberty.Leftists are about less freedom, righties are about more freedom......everytime you hear a lefty saying people are too stupid, you know they are moving toward limiting freedom......
You act as if we live in a vacuum and we do not.
Groups by definition have to give up some of their freedoms and Liberty to be groups.
You silly SOB's are to ignorant of this fact.
All we are really arguing about is the priority we each place on certain liberties.
Did that go over your head like it did COG's?
So, my standard is not the same as yours. In fact among each party line , individual standards vary. Yet people like you and COG seem to think you have the lock on just what liberty and freedom should mean to others than yourself. I grant others their standard, you two seem to not want to grant others the same. Originally Posted by WDF
Oh yea, I do not care for some of you righties form of Liberty.the thread is about a vile quote you provided support for.
You act as if we live in a vacuum and we do not.
Groups by definition have to give up some of their freedoms and Liberty to be groups.
You silly SOB's are to ignorant of this fact.
All we are really arguing about is the priority we each place on certain liberties.
Did that go over your head like it did COG's?
So, my standard is not the same as yours. In fact among each party line , individual standards vary. Yet people like you and COG seem to think you have the lock on just what liberty and freedom should mean to others than yourself. I grant others their standard, you two seem to not want to grant others the same. Originally Posted by WTF
the thread is about a vile quote you provided support for.
its an attack on liberty and refers to those who beleive in capitalism and liberty as, in essence, tyrants. it falsely claims the "fortunate" wish no restraint in some fantasy world this person has created.
we were addressing the idiocy of the quote..you didnt. you spent posts supporting it without reservation
Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought
Leftists are about less freedom, righties are about more freedom......everytime you hear a lefty saying people are too stupid, you know they are moving toward limiting freedom......Freedom and liberty are like good sex.
... Originally Posted by ChoomCzar
You have the freedom to move. Move to Mexico or Costa Rica, I'm thinking of doing so.
I'd like to have these freedoms:
Freedom to opt out and not pay for the government retirement/disability system...
Freedom to opt out and not pay for the government medical system... Originally Posted by ChoomCzar