Socials - Why don't you come?

Sir Hardin'
When (not if) there is a social, I'll be sure you are invited. Manners mean everything.. Originally Posted by nuglet

Guess I won't make that "cut list" either!

Funny Nuglet, I was at the social at your venue and I don't remember there being any problems nor did I see CK get "kicked out" or "asked to leave". Everyone had a good time and it was a cool location. Not that matters.

Please don't comment anymore Nuglet. Your taking my post to far off topic....

I went to a lot of socials back in the first part of this decade in Houston, San Antonio, and Austin including some "off-beat" ones like the Amazing Pool Parties (in Houston) and things like that. However, the last social I went was somewhere around the end of 2003. There were several reasons I stopped going:

1. I don't like CK (full agreement with Whispers on how CK just lost his way).

2. I'm exclusively a strip club guy so when the rules required you be vouched by a local provider I was automatically getting squeezed out.

3. I pushed and pushed to have the days of the week the socials were run to be moved around, but they were always on Thursdays (some on Wednesdays). No matter how much I pushed I was told that the membership wanted only to party on either of those days. That really didn't work for me. They had these socials (in Austin) once a month, you would think they'd give us a Monday or Tuesday maybe once a year.

4. I hated paying the entry fee which went to cover some of the food and drinks for the ladies. Since I was an SC guy, I never gave a flying fuck about the ladies and their drinks, and I rarely ate or drank at these things anyway. A $5 or $10 entry fee was fine, but the entry fee started going higher and higher. I'm a cheap bastard anyway.

5. I just fell out of touch with the community at large and decided to just "go solo" so to speak. My "contributions" to the boards went way down especially after the great crash of 2005 (I think it was) where damn near everything from 2003 and 2004 were wiped out forever. So many good threads were lost. I also gave up on Austin strip clubs around the tail end of 2004 and was exclusively a "player" in Houston up until about two years ago when I made San Antonio my SC play pen.

6. I really don't like CK.

That being said, I have enjoyed going to a few of Whispers' luncheons. He mixes up the days of the week that they are held, the entry fee is reasonable and covers my own cover, food, and drinks, and I've met a couple of people along the way that I probably wouldn't have met otherwise, members and strippers.

In any case, with the rules as they are for socials I will never be able to go to one, and at this point I can really care less. The GC luncheons are pretty much going to be the only outlet I have for "hanging with the crowd."

[QUOTE WHISPERS= And as one that stages similar events... None of you remotely know or understand the work that goes into one of these...[/quote]

Not quite true. there are some of us (you for one, but not the only one) that know EXACTLY what goes into it, how to do it safely, how to be discrete, and NOT attract the wrong attention. AND have the venue, the resources, and the capability to pull it off.
In fact you were invited to look a venue recently that I told you about, but since you didn't, you can't just dismiss everyone out of hand.

On topic, the reason I don't attend socials is because I (it's just me) don't find SC's a very cozy, conversational, place to socialize normally. Just a different interpretation of "social". I much prefer a more private, not nearly so loud, not so dark, not so alcoholic fuzzed, venue for relaxing. ya know.... like a "social".

NEVERMIND

Guess I won't make that "cut list" either!

Originally Posted by Whispers

I Haven't noticed a lack of manners in you fella's, that was a generic statement.. now... HD is another story...

"Why don't you go to socials?"

I don't go to socials because every time I attend some gal always manages to take me away with her and violate me. Like last night, for example... some Shirley Temple looking hottie kidnapped me.....tawdry.

Yeah, a slip-up was made in Houston. I've been to about 4 or 5 of these events since, ck worked the door and all went off without incident. Lesson learned as far as I'm concerned.

It's all a matter of risk assessment. If you don't thinck it's worth the risk to attend, don't attend. Sounds simple enough.


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"Why don't you go to socials?"


It's all a matter of risk assessment. If you don't think it's worth the risk to attend, don't attend. Sounds simple enough.



. Originally Posted by SofaKingFun

I fully agree. Married guys always have to worry about being seen in a public venue with a bunch of hot women. Someone might see them and just make a casual comment to the wife and things might quickly go downhill. When I was married and attending socials, I took a risk. I would estimate about half the attendees were married so I was hardly alone.

When I became single, I didn't give a damn who might see me at a social.

I haven't attended a social in years, mainly since I haven't been active in the provider scene and have been dropped from CK's list (and I'm not going to diss CK who may be a little tough on allowing people to attend socials, but otherwise does a great job) so doubtful I will attend a social in the future. Now the SC get-togethers may be a different story.

Hell, I'm married, and when she's able to get off work, my lady loves to join the party. we call it bonding...
sometimes i get even more mileage at a SC with her along.. she is a bird-dog.. then we just fight over who get the lady first.. or at all.≥.....

Nuglet, plain and simple, you did not kick me out of the event at your venue. I paid you what we had agreed upon and expected, as I left, that the venue could once again be usable.

However, subsequently you out the venue in a public thread at aspd.

I told you that I considered that a serious breach of security, and that we would not be using your venue for quite a while if ever at all.

If there were activities of any sort during the one event at your venue that should not have happened, my memory bank doesn't include anything like that.

Your venue is very nice, even convenient, as far as venues go. As for keeping it secure, you didn't have a clue then, and apparently still don't.

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Whispers, much of what you speak is accurate and true.

However, your view of security and mine diverge completely.

My view of security is that all of the invitees must be vouched properly for following the rules.

As far as providers' "soft" marketing - well, true, as well, the events are not meat markets nor are they window shoppers' paradise.

I ask that gents be vouched both for social manners and for recent hobbying sessions (within the past 3 months) for good reason, being an active hobbyist being one. Another is that vouches from a session a year or two back simply are not reliable.

I don't rely on posted reviews, nor on posted ads as being adequate for an invitation. Other organizers may have their own criteria for that and I can respect that but not agree with it. And I won't attend any one else's functions unless I know what the vouching and screening process is.

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All events are only a "meet & greet" -- and all who attend are expected to follow the rules.

If you attend, it is presumed you have read the rules and have agreed to follow them. Those who don't will not be invited to future events.

No illegal activities. That means no play for pay, no drugs, absolutely nothing that can compromise the security of our members, guests and our host venue. If you don't understand the rules, please ask ck1942 to explain.

For the security of all involved - no cameras; no uninvited/unsponsored guests; no haggling over services, etc.

No recruiting for anything and no promoting of any web sites.

Please respect all attending by no inappropriate touching and by not disclosing their presence to others on or off any board.

Nuglet, plain and simple, you did not kick me out of the event at your venue. I paid you what we had agreed upon and expected, as I left, that the venue could once again be usable.(SO NOW.... AFTER DENYING IT FOR SO LONG YOU ADMIT YOU DID IN FACT PAY ME FOR A VENUE.. YOU DENIED THAT JUST LIKE YOU DENIED IT WAS "ASSOCIATED" WITH ASPD. SURE.....~~~ IT WAS ALL "YOUR" GREAT STYLE AND PERSONAL LIST OF FRIENDS.. NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH ASPD.. SURE, DAT'S IT.. JUST ME AND EVERYONE ELSE MISUNDERSTOOD.
WHERE IN THE WORLD DID YOU GET THE IDEA YOU WOULD BE WELCOME BACK? CERTAINLY NOT FROM ME!!!!)
AND YES, YOU PAID ME, OUT OF THE PROFIT YOU MADE, WHICH YOU ADMITTED AT THE TIME WAS MORE THAN YOU EXPECTED... SILLY BOY. I DIDN'T "KICK YOU OUT".
YOU TOOK THE MORE EXPEDIENT ROUTE OF LEAVING BEFORE THAT CAME TO PASS.. BUT, DID I EVER EVER, EVER ASK YOU BACK... NOT ON YOUR GRAVE OR MINE!
PLAIN AND SIMPLE, I COULD SPOT YOU AS A LOOSE LIPS/SINK SHIPS KINDA GUY. YOU AND YOUR TYPE ARE ALWAYS EASY TO SPOT IF ONE ACTUALLY UNDERSTANDS HOW TO HOST AND GIVE'S A FLIP ABOUT ATTENDEES SAFETY, PERSONAL AND PUBLIC, AND PAYS ATTENTION TO HIS PERSONAL MONEY POT..
YOU CERTAINLY DO/DID/WON'T BE WILLING TO DO WHAT'S IS NECESSARY.
I'VE HOSTED MORE, SOCIALS, EVENTS, CEREMONIES THAN YOU CAN IMAGINE. MY QUESTION IS WHY DO YOU CONTINUE TO HOLD OUT THAT YOU ARE SOOOOOO GREAT!
HOW ABOUT THIS? LET'S ASK SOME OF THE FOLKS YOU HUNG OUT TO DRY AT OTHER EVENTS? WHEN YOU DUCKED OUT, OR WERE STRANGELY "UNAVAILABLE". YEAH LET'S DO THAT!

However, subsequently you out the venue in a public thread at aspd.(BS AND YOU KNOW IT. YOU MAKE THAT CLAIM BUT HAVEN'T IN 3 YEARS MANAGED TO PROVIDE THE EVIDENCE YOU AND YOUR PET BOY CLAIM TO HAVE.
YOU AND ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR LITTLE PETS MADE THINGS NOT ONLY UNCOMFORTABLE, BUT ILLEGAL.. THUS YOUR INVITATION TO STAY AWAY FROM HERE!)
DIDN'T FOLKS ASK YOU, AS THEY DID ME.."WHY NOT HAVE A SOCIAL BACK AT THAT PLACE?"
IT WAS NICE AND WE FELT SAFE...

I told you that I considered that a serious breach of security, and that we would not be using your venue for quite a while if ever at all. (FUNNY,, NOW YOU REMEMBER "YOUR" VERSION" .... LIKE THAT WAS "YOUR CHOICE" TO MAKE. NOT BLOODY LIKELY SON!

If there were activities of any sort during the one event at your venue that should not have happened, my memory bank doesn't include anything like that. (HOW CONVENIENT FOR YOU!) OF COURSE IT DOESN'T, JUST LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE EXPLAINATIONS FOR "OOPSIES" THAT HAPPENED AT SOME OF YOUR OTHER "NON ASPD" PARTIES.. WHAT A LOAD!!!

Your venue is very nice, (YES IT IS, NOT THAT YOU'LL EVER SEE IT AGAIN) even convenient, (YES IT IS, UNTIL YOU STARTED FLAPPING YOU LIPS) as far as venues go. As for keeping it secure, you didn't have a clue then, and apparently still don't. (FUNNY THERE, I DIDN'T SEE MY VENUE IN THE "BUSTED" COLUMN LIKE THE ONE YOU HAD IN HOUSTON AND BLAMED ON OTHERS!! AND FOR 10 YEARS "BEFORE YOU" AND TO THIS DAY, IT IS SAFER THAN ANY HIDDEN TRAPS YOU INVITE FOLKS TO.

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Whispers, much of what you speak is accurate and true.

However, your view of security and mine diverge completely.

My view of security is that all of the invitees must be vouched (vouched for? That's just your way of again denying any responsibility or role, allowing you to point fingers everywhere when LE says.... "whose in charge here?" properly for following the rules. (RULES?!?! WHAT A JOKE. YOUR VOUCHING SYSTEM WAS AT THAT TIME, REQUIRING NOTHING MORE THAN A PROVIDER SAYING OK!!! YOU LEFT THE GUEST LIST OUT FOR ANYONE TO SEE/COPY/PHOTO AND EVEN POINTEDLY PROVIDED IT TO SOME)

As far as providers' "soft" marketing - well, true, as well, the events are not meat markets nor are they window shoppers' paradise.

I ask that gents be vouched both for social manners and for recent hobbying sessions (within the past 3 months) for good reason, being an active hobbyist being one. Another is that vouches from a session a year or two back simply are not reliable. (AND THUS, YOU WEREN'T BEING "TAKEN CARE OF BY THE LADIES THAT YOU "TOOK CARE OF" SO OLD REFERRALS MEANT YOU WEREN'T GETTING "YOUR PART", SO, NO MORE INVITES IF YOUR PETS WEREN'T STILL IN THE HENHOUSE.
THERE'S PLENTY OF INFO ABOUT YOUR TWISTED TIES AND THE STRINGS YOU KEPT ATTACHED TO SOME OF THE GIRLS!!

I don't rely on posted reviews, nor on posted ads as being adequate for an invitation. Other organizers may have their own criteria for that and I can respect that but not agree with it. And I won't attend any one else's functions unless I know what the vouching and screening process is. Originally Posted by ck1942

CK, first rule of holes. when you find yourself in one, QUIT DIGGING. YOU LIED, YOU SHOT OFF YOUR MOUTH ABOUT THE VENUE.
YOU AND SEVERAL OF US KNOW IT. YOU WON'T SKATE OUT OF THIS ONE. I'M NOT ONE OF YOUR SYCOPHANTS, AND WILL NOT STAND BY AND LET YOU PLAY THE "GREAT ONE" WHEN THE OCCASION ARISES THAT YOU TRY TO PLAY THE HIGH AND MIGHTY.. NOT HERE BUDDY!!!!!!

WHAT IS THE REASON I TOLD YOU THAT YOU WOULD "NEVER BE WELCOME BACK TO OUR PLACE? DO YOU EVEN REMEMBER? PROBABLY NOT.
SELECTIVE MEMORY IS A WONDERFUL THING ISN'T IT. YOU HAVE THE UTMOST ABILITY TO BLAME EVERYONE, AND TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR INDISCRETIONS..
BUT WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE AROUND YOU END UP IN ISSUES?
GOT A REASON? OH YEAH, "THEY" MADE THEIR OWN DECISIONS.. NOT YOUR FAULT......... HOW HANDY FOR YOU.

on TOPIC: JUST ONE OF THE REASONS I DO NOT ATTEND SOME SOCIALS..

Funny Nuglet, I was at the social at your venue and I don't remember there being any problems nor did I see CK get "kicked out" or "asked to leave". Everyone had a good time and it was a cool location. Not that matters. Originally Posted by Reincarnated

I was there as well and don't recall anything going amiss. Too bad something did, seemed a lot more 'at ease' than other socials. (Then again, maybe that was the problem, possibly someone got a bit too frisky?)

(edit: just read Nuglet's posts past what I responded to. Too bad. But... it's his venue, his rules. If he thinks things weren't run correctly, his perogative, as it's his ass out to dry.)

Gentlemen,
Last warning. If you want to debate past issues, start your own thread. Keep this one on topic or it will be done.

Spacemtn
AustinModStaff

Yessir; I just wish there was a BS filter built in.. LOL
No problem SM. I'm out of it. I "wish" it were past issues and not an ongoing thing..
The kids are on their own.
thanks for your patience and letting this run it's course.... which it has

Hell, I'm married, and when she's able to get off work, my lady loves to join the party. we call it bonding...
sometimes i get even more mileage at a SC with her along.. she is a bird-dog.. then we just fight over who get the lady first.. or at all.≥..... Originally Posted by nuglet

Nuglet, we were at your place 3 or 4 times before you closed. There are some times when I like to get away by myself. My wife does not do the bi thing so when we go to a SC it is for my entertainment.