The Pope has his "Wag The Dog" moment.

It is ignorant to expect anyone besides the mother and father to be forced to take care of some callous asshole's baby when even the real father won't do it. Originally Posted by DSK

What's ignorant is not wanting the mother to have the choice of carrying the baby in the first fucking place.

I think you are confusing Healthcare with Health Insurance. Conservatives have no authority to deny or provide Healthcare. They may not be real hip on providing free Health Insurance but Democrats have never accomplished that either. Health Ins. simply isn't free and as long as America is under a Capitalist economy it never will be. As far as Education. If our education system is fucked up it got that way equally by both Repubs and Dems. You can't put the blame solely on one party they both have had their short comings. If you have been following the Popes visit he really hasn't complimented America on very much at all. He's criticized Capitalism, our handling of immigrants and that we don't take care of the poor adequately. That finger is pointed at our whole entire government that includes every Democrat and Republican from the President all the way down to the last member of congress.

Jim Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

This is a copout, bullshit argument. It isn't both parties fault. It's one parties' fault. Why is the pope obligate to compliment us? Capitalism isn't perfect. Certainly plenty of fodder for criticism there. We don't care for our poor adequately, or do you think all the starving children are a sign of a well-managed system? Republicants simply don't care about the little man, period. Never have. They talk about pulling up from the bootstraps and all that shit, but they will never recognize a rigged system.

This is a copout, bullshit argument. It isn't both parties fault. It's one parties' fault. Why is the pope obligate to compliment us? Capitalism isn't perfect. Certainly plenty of fodder for criticism there. We don't care for our poor adequately, or do you think all the starving children are a sign of a well-managed system? Republicants simply don't care about the little man, period. Never have. They talk about pulling up from the bootstraps and all that shit, but they will never recognize a rigged system. Originally Posted by WombRaider

Of course it's both parties fault. Both parties have equal opportunities to occupy the office of the presidency and congress. They both may have different ideologies but that doesn't put one more libel than the other for the problems this country has accrued. In fact we can eliminate either one of the parties completely and still toil with the same problems. It's all about power and money. Imagine if all 330 million Americans were wealthy, politicians would have no power the citizens would. But because we have a diverse economic class from the very rich to the very poor and everything in between Government has the power and they aim to keep it that way. You can't influence wealthy people nearly as well as you can poor people. Both Democrats and Republicans know this. The right, left paradigm is political "Tom Foolery" at it's finest.

Jim

What's ignorant is not wanting the mother to have the choice of carrying the baby in the first fucking place. Originally Posted by WombRaider

I guess that depends on the definition of life and a baby. If it were merely a choice, no problem, kill it. Unfortunately, the wee little ones are living organisms that at some point have a heartbeat, and a soul.

That's your opinion, JL. Not fact. How many Asian-American abortions have you authored?

If the little fucker had run up to W, then you would have said" isn't that sweet". Why are children being discussed again? Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Number one, the OP was about this little girl or didn't you catch that?
Number two, I don't care if Sarah Palin had a bear cub break from the crowd and run to her feet for protection. I don't buy into stupid PR stuff and it doesn't do anything for me if a woman (women) faint in the crowd for Barack. Falling for this stuff is a hallmark of democrats.

Of course it's both parties fault. Both parties have equal opportunities to occupy the office of the presidency and congress. They both may have different ideologies but that doesn't put one more libel than the other for the problems this country has accrued. In fact we can eliminate either one of the parties completely and still toil with the same problems. It's all about power and money. Imagine if all 330 million Americans were wealthy, politicians would have no power the citizens would. But because we have a diverse economic class from the very rich to the very poor and everything in between Government has the power and they aim to keep it that way. You can't influence wealthy people nearly as well as you can poor people. Both Democrats and Republicans know this. The right, left paradigm is political "Tom Foolery" at it's finest.

Jim Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

To go on, imagine if all 330 million Americans and illegals all had the same wealth. We would all be equal and it would be guaranteed by the government. So if you didn't think you had enough, or you needed more, then you have to petition the government for a special dispensation. The government would never hold this over your head if they gave it to you, would they? What if an entire class of people (except in a perfect left wing society, there are no classes of people) got more based on some past wrong committed against them? There is only so much to go around (the liberal piece of the pie theory) and you have to give up some of yours to make up the increase that they got. The government would never do that would they? Ahhh, the dreams of a left wing Utopia run aground again.

When it becomes a 'human life' is the point of contention. For the religious who believe it happens at the moment of conception, which it doesn't, they would decry the morning after pill as abortion. Originally Posted by WombRaider

Point of contention??? Joe Biden thinks it happens at conception and anything after that is the taking of a human life. What do you call the taking of innocent human life? What is that word that starts with an M. Hey, NAZI BABY KILLER, do you know what word I'm talking about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXZLPHe3pu4

I guess that depends on the definition of life and a baby. If it were merely a choice, no problem, kill it. Unfortunately, the wee little ones are living organisms that at some point have a heartbeat, and a soul. Originally Posted by DSK

There is no scientific proof of a soul, first off. And hundreds of eggs will not become human in the effort to have a baby, are all those discarded eggs murder? Since life begins at conception to you, you must answer yes.

Point of contention??? Joe Biden thinks it happens at conception and anything after that is the taking of a human life. What do you call the taking of innocent human life? What is that word that starts with an M. Hey, NAZI BABY KILLER, do you know what word I'm talking about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXZLPHe3pu4 Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

You are a fucking MORON. You don't even know the basics behind pregnancy. Hundreds of eggs will go unfertilized and discarded so that ONE can become a human being. This happens AFTER conception. Are all those unused eggs murder? Even though the women has no say in it, this is a bodily process. Should she be prosecuted for that? I love how you trot up Biden, like I'll agree with anything he says, because he's a democrat. On this issue, he's as fucking stupid as you are. Go do a little research.

Go do a little research. Originally Posted by WombRaider

The last thing JDIdiot researched resulted in his Malaysian Airlines 777 Conspiracy theory.

We all know how that worked out for him.

Number one, the OP was about this little girl or didn't you catch that? Why do I see the word " Pope" in the OP/
Number two, I don't care if Sarah Palin had a bear cub break from the crowd and run to her feet for protection. I don't buy into stupid PR stuff and it doesn't do anything for me if a woman (women) faint in the crowd for Barack. Falling for this stuff is a hallmark of democrats. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Why is the { forbidden subject} keep coming up?
Why do I not see the word " Sara Palin" in the OP ?

There is no scientific proof of a soul, first off. And hundreds of eggs will not become human in the effort to have a baby, are all those discarded eggs murder? Since life begins at conception to you, you must answer yes. Originally Posted by WombRaider

You're a fucking Jell-O head. There no other way to respond to that stupid statement.


Jim

By the way. It has now been reported that the incident in the OP was indeed staged. The only real question is whether The Obama Administration was in on it.

http://www.mlive.com/news/us-world/i...little_gi.html

Pope Francis.........Useful Idiot of The Left

You are a fucking MORON. ...Hundreds of eggs will go unfertilized Originally Posted by WombRaider

Speaking of MORONS.. what is an UNFERTILIZED EGG? Sure ain't a human being nor the chance to BECOME ONE. That only happens.. wait for it.. AFTER Fertilization/Conception.

Talk about the stupidest argument pro-offered by liberal pro-abortion folks yet.