Who’s the biggest hate group in the USA?

dilbert firestorm's Avatar
if the russians had dirt on Hillary... wouldn't it make more sense to help hillary than help trump as they have something on her that they can control????
Yssup Rider's Avatar
No, BONE. They helped the one they knew they could control.
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
No, BONE. They helped the one they knew they could control. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
before or after we sold weapons to the Ukraine?

that didn't make your false narrative look very convincing, did it?
sean rider's Avatar
FACT: Manafort was Trump's campaign manager for less than 60 days.

WRONG: Manafort joined the campaign March 29, 2016, became campaign manager on May 19, 2016, and quit August 19, 2016. This was a key period of time starting before the Republican convention, included meetings with Russians, offers to by Manafort to provide criminal oligarchs with "private briefings", and accomplishing the *only* thing the Trump campaign wanted changed in the party platform: the removal of support of the Ukraine against Putin's Russia.
FACT: Manafort was Trump's campaign manager less than 60 days. You're a liar when you deny that.
I B Hankering,

I know I said I'd let you have the last word, but unlike Trump, it matters to me when people accuse me of lying.

So let's count this one down together. Follow closely now...

Manafort became campaign manager on May 19, 2016, and quit August 19, 2016.

May 19 to the end of the month = 13 days
June = 30 days
July = 31 days
August 1 to 19 = 19 days

13 days + 30 days + 31 days + 19 days = 93 days

93 days is greater than 60 days

But unlike you, I understand the difference between a mistake and a lie.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume you find arithmetic confusing.
I made a bet in a prior thread Sean that you may want to take me up on. If Donald Trump is successfully impeached by Dec 31, 2018 I'll stay out of the Political Forum for 2019. If he's not successfully impeached by the end of 2018 you'll stay out of the forum for 2019.

Put up or shut up.
I B Hankering's Avatar
I B Hankering,

I know I said I'd let you have the last word, but unlike Trump, it matters to me when people accuse me of lying.

So let's count this one down together. Follow closely now...

Manafort became campaign manager on May 19, 2016, and quit August 19, 2016.

May 19 to the end of the month = 13 days
June = 30 days
July = 31 days
August 1 to 19 = 19 days

13 days + 30 days + 31 days + 19 days = 93 days

93 days is greater than 60 days

But unlike you, I understand the difference between a mistake and a lie.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume you find arithmetic confusing.
Originally Posted by sean rider
You're either lying or perpetually stupid.

Trump fires campaign manager in shakeup for election push
JUNE 20, 2016 / 9:09 AM

NEW YORK/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Donald Trump fired Corey Lewandowski, the campaign manager who helped him win Republican presidential nominating contests ....

Manafort will take over as campaign manager, said Carl Paladino, co-chairman of the campaign’s operations in New York state.


(Reuters)
Yeah lusty, I kind of, well almost, miss messing with StandinInShit ..... perhaps we have found his replacement ..... this should be fun ..... Originally Posted by 00 gauge
Anus Rider may be StandInShit.
The biggest hate group in America is Assup Rider.
lustylad's Avatar
So let's count this one down together. Follow closely now...

Manafort became campaign manager on May 19, 2016, and quit August 19, 2016.

May 19 to the end of the month = 13 days
June = 30 days
July = 31 days
August 1 to 19 = 19 days

13 days + 30 days + 31 days + 19 days = 93 days Originally Posted by sean rider
Shame-ridden... did you not even read my post #41?

Manafort became campaign manager on June 20, not May 19! IB just posted a Reuters link confirming the correct start date. We'll give you credit for getting the quit date right.

At this point, I don't really give a fuck if he was Trump's campaign manager for 59 days or 61 days, ok? However, I would be interested in hearing your reaction to the true story of the 2016 GOP platform language on Ukraine, which you claim is somehow evidence of Trump-Russia collusion. Go back to my post #41, open the link, read the Byron York piece, then tell us what you think.
Shame-ridden... did you not even read my post #41?

Manafort became campaign manager on June 20, not May 19! IB just posted a Reuters link confirming the correct start date. We'll give you credit for getting the quit date right.

At this point, I don't really give a fuck if he was Trump's campaign manager for 59 days or 61 days, ok? However, I would be interested in hearing your reaction to the true story of the 2016 GOP platform language on Ukraine, which you claim is somehow evidence of Trump-Russia collusion. Go back to my post #41, open the link, read the Byron York piece, then tell us what you think. Originally Posted by lustylad

ok minutiae, but is it even fair to count the start date as a full day and the end date as a full day?

the guy has tried to be precise, seems precision isn't a strong suit, else he would have realized the imprecision of his count
sean rider's Avatar
Aha! I see the mistake, which is admittedly mine in terms of literal job titles. I switched the titles "campaign manager" (given June 20) and "campaign chairman and chief strategist" (given about a month before on May 19).

But it's misleading to try to give the impression that Manafort was only close to Trump for 60 days. In fact, according to Lewandowski, Manafort was in charge for 131 days.

"Paul Manafort has been in operational control of the campaign since April 7,” Lewandowski told The Associated Press on the day he was fired. “That's a fact.”*

So if the question is how much influence and power did Manafort have in the campaign, and for how long was he joined at the hip with Trump, it's more accurate to say 90+ days, and perhaps as many as 131 days.

But like all of these things, time will tell. And by "time" I mean the Mueller report. Nobody here knows what he knows. And not even Trump can create facts from nothing. He can only lie. And Mueller has been taking down liars his whole life.

(Meanwhile, today Manafort was denied release on bail. Again. And in response to Manafort's complaint to the contrary, the court today affirmed the legitimacy of Mueller's investigation. That ticking sound in Manafort's jail cell is getting louder every day.)

* https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/time...ry?id=50808957
Yssup Rider's Avatar
And TWITLER’S Sphincter continues to tighten.

Meanwhile, who’s winning now?

MrThom's Avatar
The regular posters in the Political Forum of Eccie.
MT Pockets's Avatar
I B Hankering,

I know I said I'd let you have the last word, but unlike Trump, it matters to me when people accuse me of lying.

So let's count this one down together. Follow closely now...

Manafort became campaign manager on May 19, 2016, and quit August 19, 2016.

May 19 to the end of the month = 13 days
June = 30 days
July = 31 days
August 1 to 19 = 19 days

13 days + 30 days + 31 days + 19 days = 93 days

93 days is greater than 60 days

But unlike you, I understand the difference between a mistake and a lie.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume you find arithmetic confusing. Originally Posted by sean rider
You're either lying or perpetually stupid. Originally Posted by I B Hankering
I hate to admit it Sean, but IB a liar is actually right. Manafort was Trumps manager for less that 60 days. He was never on the payroll for Trump, that means he was merely a chairman. He was however on one of Putins buddy's payroll for Millions it seems.
I would like Trump to explain how he vetted him and missed that. So Manafort was paid by a Russian ally and was working on Trumps campaign. And some folks have no issue with that. Pathetic.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...n-ally-ap-says
bambino's Avatar
And TWITLER’S Sphincter continues to tighten.

Meanwhile, who’s winning now?

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Is your tongue Trumps sphincters dipstick?