Sociel hierarchy

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA wakeup? a predator? HILARIOUS! More like a scavenger that feeds on the juicy remnants of roadkill.
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Besides acting like a petulant child refusing to participate, you seem to be completely unclear on the concept here, girl.

The fact is that you like all girls do compare yourself to others whether you admit it or not.

The concept of social hierarchy refers to your position in this world.

. . . What happens to you after you die is totally irrelevant to this discussion and is an entirely different topic.





I don't compare myself to anyone so the last thing I am trying to do is elevate myself on a redundant social scale. Now matter how much money or power you feel you have it doesn't gain respect or adornment- just mild tolerance.

When we die, we all rot, so what's the point? Originally Posted by SkylarCruzWantsYou
I meant what's the point of climbing up the ladder do you get a prize when you get to the top?

What's the point? If there isn't a point then why attempt it?
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You really are a spoiled brat, aren't you girl?

Of course there is a point to life, but you need to be open-minded to recognize it.

The point is to live the best possible life while you are here, even if life is short.

Just because death awaits us somewhere down the road does not mean that we just give up trying now.

You can either choose to fearlessly take life by the horns and make it the best you can or you can just drift around aimlessly like a scared mouse settling for whatever crumbs come its way because you're going to die anyway.

. . . That's just a cowardly way to live life.



I meant what's the point of climbing up the ladder do you get a prize when you get to the top?

What's the point? If there isn't a point then why attempt it? Originally Posted by SkylarCruzWantsYou
I wasn't asking about the point to life I was asking what's the point to social ladder climbing.
Totally agree about living life to the fullest,
but you are supposed to do that for you and not anyone else.

Keep talking dirty to me it turns me on and add a little hair pulling long with it might have a very nice slippery situation.
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I don't compare myself to anyone so the last thing I am trying to do is elevate myself on a redundant social scale. Now matter how much money or power you feel you have it doesn't gain respect or adornment- just mild tolerance.

When we die, we all rot, so what's the point? Originally Posted by SkylarCruzWantsYou
Have I ever told you how much I adore your opinions? So well said!
This is a good question but a tricky one. It says more about who we want to be than about who we are. I live in a town where we have the $30,000 millionaire phenomenon: people who are trying to appear to be in one social class when their income does not necessarily fit with their self-evaluation. I feel like social hierarchy is kind of a shorthand that we use to decide which people are more or less valuable or important based on visual cues, possessions and respect. It is a type of stereotyping that people use because we always want to know who is winning or where we fit in.

We live in America, the home of conspicuous consumption, where one can use credit and buy things to emulate an appearance of any social class. We can use our shorthand of apparent social hierarchy to start, but it is never really fair to approach others as anything less than a fully valued, beautifully created human soul.
as a kid growing up on military bases, i didn't know we were poor, but we were... probably below the middle, but not near the bottom.

i married "up" and over the years we became the executive couple, entertaining, traveling, etc... near or very near the top.

after my divorce, i know my social status dropped. i have no regrets. now, i co-own and run a small business (aside from the hobby) that probably seats me pretty well in the middle.

i have 2 BAs and some Masters' work. i can fit in, in almost any setting, chameleon-like. i easily shift my conversation/language style to make those around me comfortable. i don't start discussions about Renaissance Art or Medieval History when i'm hanging out with my biker friends, unless they are like-minded. and i don't discuss biker lifestyle when i'm with the VP, CEO crowd.

to me, part of what makes a woman "gracious" is her ability to make those around her feel good, feel comfortable and secure. i like to think that's what i do regardless of which group i'm with at the time.
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Well, it's your life and you can live it as you please, but it does sound quite selfish to me.

I believe a good life is what you build when you become more valuable to society.

. . . Climbing up the social ladder then becomes a consequence, not an objective.




I wasn't asking about the point to life I was asking what's the point to social ladder climbing.
Totally agree about living life to the fullest,
but you are supposed to do that for you and not anyone else.

Keep talking dirty to me it turns me on and add a little hair pulling long with it might have a very nice slippery situation. Originally Posted by SkylarCruzWantsYou
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Judging without knowing the person is a little premature don't you thinck?
Fast Gunn's Avatar
Learning how to accurately read a person at a distance is a vital skill one needs to cultivate in today's complex world.

Anyone who wishes to be successful must be able to make a clear, rapid and correct assessment of a person before he even speaks a word, but most people don't bother and they got lost in words.

Of course, you will fine-tune that assessment with time, but I believe that 80% accuracy or higher within 2 minutes of knowing a person is possible if you're astute enough.

. . .Of course, people change and that is where the 20% comes in.

JohnnyYanks's Avatar
Learning how to accurately read a person at a distance is a vital skill one needs to cultivate in today's complex world.

Anyone who wishes to be successful must be able to make a clear, rapid and correct assessment of a person before he even speaks a word, but most people don't bother and they got lost in words.

Of course, you will fine-tune that assessment with time, but I believe that 80% accuracy or higher within 2 minutes of knowing a person is possible if you're astute enough.

. . .Of course, people change and that is where the 20% comes in.

Originally Posted by Fast Gunn
So, what pray tell can you infer from a typical 2 minute encounter with an unspeaking stranger, Sherlock? Where said stranger dined for breakfast? Or the balance of finances in volatile market shares V government bonds? Or the all-important Yale vs Harvard question? Surely whether they believe in the trans-migration of the soul or, at least, if they are a non-believer?

Absurd, absurd, absurd.

For many (most?) of us the world is an enormous and fearful place and there can be great comfort in measuring it into decipherable "bites." And knowing things (or at least telling ourself we know things) about the world and its inhabitants is the ultimate salve against the festering wound of absolute ignorance.

It seems to me you argue but a poor variation of Dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum. But aren't the flaws in this statement obvious enough?
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Everybody is sized up in a matter of seconds, and 2 minutes is a luxury evolution choose not to take. If you see a seedy character coming your way, your first thoughts are not maybe he is OK. Everyone is prejudiced. I laugh at the people trying to be PC who say they are not.
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Well, yes, sure, Flec, that was the point of discussion: refuting Fight or Flight scenarios to propagate a PC position (at least, apparently, for your amusement). Huh?

And do expand on "2 minutes is a luxury evolution choose (sic) not to take" - sounds like a topic you're well-versed in. Can't wait to hear more.
Fast Gunn's Avatar
Well, in just a few minutes of reading your post, I can tell you that It doesn't matter if you scatter all the Latin phrases you might know, Johnny boy, it still won't make you sound intelligent, but you do sound like an argumentative little boy.

Sizing up people is something that is done by by-passing the intellect and often just paying attention to details others miss.

No, I cannot tell you what a person had for breakfast with my method, but frankly I don't give a damn either. Why would that trivia even matter?

If they went to Harvard or Yale is not relevant to me.

I have read with admiration all of Arthur Conan Doyle's works and while I do not claim to be at the level of Sherlock, it is still amazing what you can determine if you look and listen.

I used to work at a very large organization where I would hear the click-clack of people's shoes on the marble floor tile as they walked by and I remember that after a couple of months, I could tell you who was coming up the hall without looking up just from the different sounds their shoes made on the marble tile.

. . . People have hidden talents that they don't even know because they never experiment!



So, what pray tell can you infer from a typical 2 minute encounter with an unspeaking stranger, Sherlock? Where said stranger dined for breakfast? Or the balance of finances in volatile market shares V government bonds? Or the all-important Yale vs Harvard question? Surely whether they believe in the trans-migration of the soul or, at least, if they are a non-believer?
Originally Posted by JohnnyYanks