when should the session timer start and or end?

i agree with what girls have said that time should start the moment i walk in, but that time should be my time to use and not your time to waste on your last weekend issues. i can go down to any bar and get that conversation for free. the main question should have been how do i get things going without sounding like a AHOLE?

the main question should have been how do i get things going without sounding like a AHOLE? Originally Posted by asnbtdwn

Too late

Too late Originally Posted by dearhunter

Looks like I'm veritably racking up the role models tonight...

::Wakeup bows::
Originally Posted by Wakeup

Damn, you must be special, Wakeup bows to no mere mortal.

Welcome home buddy, glad to see you are safe and sound. Thank you for helping make the world a safer place for everybody!

Wakeup stood on the wall for all of us........he is the role model

In all seriousness, thank you both for the kind words, but this thread is about session times, so on with the regularly scheduled program.

P.S.- Ask any soldier and they'll tell you. We don't fight for right, country, or mom's apple pie, we fight for the guy laying in the foxhole next to us, and that's the only thing we'll give our life for. Glad to be almost back though.

Ha ha!! Ok, you've got me. Let me put it this way: Don't start groping me when you first walk in the door during our first appointment. Fair enough, smart guy? Originally Posted by China Doll

Wow... nobody ever called me smart before...

But you do put out on the first date...right...

DearHunter told me it was ok to ask a provider to be nekkid and bent over when he walks through the door... but then again... that DearHunter is quite a character... he didn't say if that was walking in or leaving...

To me it depends on whom is doing the talking. I always schedule at least an hour and expect a few minutes of "getting to know you" time so we both feel comfortable and can lay out our expectations or do's and don'ts in that time. After that, I feel that the person continuing the conversation determines the time frame. If I keep yapping on and on I expect it to come out of my time. If the provider is determined to continue the conversation, I don't expect it to come out of my time. To give an example, I scheduled with a provider once and made it clear that my time that day would be tight as I had numerous things to do. She talked and talked and talked. I told her MULTIPLE times that we needed to get things moving as I needed to leave, but she kept saying "this is part of the experience I provide" while repeating the same stories and her resume over and over. We barely had 15 minutes to accomplish what I came there for. For all the ladies posting here, what is your reaction to that? I tried to move the session to the bedroom where I think it belongs, but she just wouldn't go. I can't drag a provider into the bedroom but why should the customer's time be compromised in such a way? Most of the provider responses on here lean toward the "an hour is an hour is an hour" side, but there has to be some common sense applied I think. There are people who abuse the getting to know you time on both sides, but the responses here don't seem to recognize that. I did post a "no" review on the old board of that provider and this exact same type of thread was the result with the same responses. If a provider has screened the client properly, why would she need more than those few minutes? If the client has done his homework, he shouldn't need more than that either. I know that time is money for the provider, but for the client the money I spend is for activities and not conversation. As I am a 1 pop guy, its only been an issue that one time, but it should never come to that imo.

To answer your questions, Trouserpress:

1) No, the customer's time should not be compromised in such a way. I don't think that anyone would argue that what happened to you wasn't wrong.

2) You want to know why we need more than "a few" minutes before the BCD activities if the man was screened. Well, we don't, not if you don't care whether or not we're into you. Connections aren't established by screening. If you're the "wham, bam, thank you ma'am," type, then don't see the GFE providers.

It may seem like a good argument to state that you are paying for the activities, but, unfortunately, you do not choose what we providers charge for.

Ha ha!! Ok, you've got me. Let me put it this way: Don't start groping me when you first walk in the door during our first appointment. Fair enough, smart guy? Originally Posted by China Doll

Ok ... I just looked at your website... I could spend the first session just watching you strut that cute little body of yours around...

To answer your questions, Trouserpress:


It may seem like a good argument to state that you are paying for the activities, but, unfortunately, you do not choose what we providers charge for. Originally Posted by China Doll

I kind of disagree on that one. If providers didn't offer the activities that they offer then not many would come to see them to just talk. That's what they can get at strip clubs.

I kind of disagree on that one. If providers didn't offer the activities that they offer then not many would come to see them to just talk. That's what they can get at strip clubs. Originally Posted by Eccie Addict

I know what you are saying, but I still say that you are paying for our time. Certain activities are likely to take place, of course, but the time is what we consider when we set our prices. Time is money, baby!

I know what you are saying, but I still say that you are paying for our time. Certain activities are likely to take place, of course, but the time is what we consider when we set our prices. Time is money, baby! Originally Posted by China Doll

I hear ya. And we will pay for the time as long as the activities are included with the time. Kind of a package deal

Well China Doll, I think if you are looking for a "connection" you are looking in the wrong place. We BOTH know why the client is there and if, after a few minutes we haven't established enough of a provider/client rapport to get the session started when will we? This quote: "you do not choose what we providers charge for." is dead wrong and exactly what I meant by if the client has done his homework. If I see an ad for someone I like, I check her reviews. If her services are not compatible with what I'm looking for, I move on. When I say that if you screen properly, I mean that you aren't just making sure I'm not LE, but that you have actually contacted those who have given me okays and found out what you can expect from me in terms of appearance, attitude, and behaviour. If we each have done our part beforehand, we won't need more than a small amount of time to get the ball rolling. If I walk in and you aren't comfortable with me you will know pretty quickly and no amount of time talking will ever change that. As to your statement: "Well, we don't, not if you don't care whether or not we're into you." I NEVER expect a provider to be "into" me. I assume she has a life outside the hobby and is only providing a fantasy for me which forces her to act like she IS into me for the brief time we spend together. The minute I walk out the door, I expect that I am out of her mind until the next time we meet. I'm not a wham bam guy, and as I said I'm a 1 pop per session guy, so scheduling an hour or more allows plenty of time for post session talking if the provider wants. Seems to me that the man wants the pre coital convos to be kept to a minimum and the woman wants the post coital convos the same way. Just the nature of the beasts if you ask me.

I hear ya. And we will pay for the time as long as the activities are included with the time. Kind of a package deal Originally Posted by Eccie Addict

Looks like we're not disagreeing after all.

Trouser, don't get your panties in a twist. If you don't care if the provider is comfortable enough to enjoy her session with you, then that is fine, but I can assure you that most hobbyists do care. I also question the moral integrity of men who claim that they will fuck women who are "forced to act like she is into them."