Anyone know why Trump to steal America's nuclear secrets?

Everything is closing in on Trump! Just like the russia investigation! Just like Hillary got thrown in jail for her private server! When will you guys learn these government bureaucrats are above the law. Trump could care less.

Everything is closing in on Trump! Just like the russia investigation! Just like Hillary got thrown in jail for her private server! When will you guys learn these government bureaucrats are above the law. Trump could care less. Originally Posted by mynameismudd

umm..nope. garland is trump kryptonite. trump's days as a free man are numbered. he knows it too. this whole playing president thing was a bad idea for someone as corrupt as trump. he can't help himself (from committing felonies).

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ka-donald-eric

And the house of cards begins to fall. Save those Trump Hotel coffee mugs. They might be worth something on eBay someday. Originally Posted by MisterMeat

That suit will go nowhere.
You do realize that I can claim my property is worth whatever I want to say it is worth?
It is up to a buyer to decide if they want to pay that amount for it.
It is up to a lender to do their due diligence to determine the true value.
I'm not sure who was harmed by Trump claiming his property was worth more than a third party or appraisal district appraised value.


I sold a truck recently for stupid money. I didn't really want to sell it but they guy(a customer) kept bugging me to sell it so I gave him what I thought was a ridiculously high amount that I would take for it. He didn't hesitate bringing me cash the next day. Did I commit fraud?



I bought a house a couple of years ago. The seller was asking way too much and the time it sat in a hot market was an indicator of how far off he was. I negotiated down to a reasonable amount but contingent on an appraisal. The property was to be financed. We signed a contract with that contingency. The bank's appraisal came in about 8% lower than what I had offered. The seller was pissed at first but came to reality pretty quickly so we renegotiated and met in the middle which caused me to cover the additional amount in out of pocket cash above the 20% I was putting down. Was the seller fraudulent in his self appraisal of his property or was he just out of touch with the actual market?

That suit will go nowhere.
You do realize that I can claim my property is worth whatever I want to say it is worth?
It is up to a buyer to decide if they want to pay that amount for it.
It is up to a lender to do their due diligence to determine the true value.
I'm not sure who was harmed by Trump claiming his property was worth more than a third party or appraisal district appraised value.


I sold a truck recently for stupid money. I didn't really want to sell it but they guy(a customer) kept bugging me to sell it so I gave him what I thought was a ridiculously high amount that I would take for it. He didn't hesitate bringing me cash the next day. Did I commit fraud?



I bought a house a couple of years ago. The seller was asking way too much and the time it sat in a hot market was an indicator of how far off he was. I negotiated down to a reasonable amount but contingent on an appraisal. The property was to be financed. We signed a contract with that contingency. The bank's appraisal came in about 8% lower than what I had offered. The seller was pissed at first but came to reality pretty quickly so we renegotiated and met in the middle which caused me to cover the additional amount in out of pocket cash above the 20% I was putting down. Was the seller fraudulent in his self appraisal of his property or was he just out of touch with the actual market? Originally Posted by boardman

you made a number of excellent points. trump's problem in the civil NY AG suit, as i see it, isn't that he screwed Deutzche (sp?) Bank. it's the "2 sets of books" problem: one set for the irs and anyone else he is trying to avoid paying, and another set for bankers and similarly situated parties he is trying to impress to get the lowest possible loan rates from. his property valuations appear to fluctuate widely depending on who the counterparty is. that may smack of fraud for the NY AG's civil case and a potential criminal case she has referred to her local u.s. atty's office. (she appears to have given up on the state criminal AG's office because apparently that AG is a bumbling fool who gave up investigating trump before he even started, leading to several resignations of line prosecutors. he says the crim case is alive and well, but i highly doubt it.)

you made a number of excellent points. trump's problem in the civil NY AG suit, as i see it, isn't that he screwed Deutzche (sp?) Bank. it's the "2 sets of books" problem: one set for the irs and anyone else he is trying to avoid paying, and another set for bankers and similarly situated parties he is trying to impress to get the lowest possible loan rates from. his property valuations appear to fluctuate widely depending on who the counterparty is. that may smack of fraud for the NY AG's civil case and a potential criminal case she has referred to her local u.s. atty's office. (she appears to have given up on the state criminal AG's office because apparently that AG is a bumbling fool who gave up investigating trump before he even started, leading to several resignations of line prosecutors. he says the crim case is alive and well, but i highly doubt it.) Originally Posted by pxmcc

I have "two sets of book" for my business. It's mainly because of the way the IRS requires depreciation and amortization to be handled. It's different than GAAP. Banks know that and I can assure you they know how to reconcile the differences. LOL



The only harm DeutscheBank suffered was because they may have failed to do due diligence. The articles I've read on it say that they feel like they based interest rates on misleading financials provided by the Trump organization. Sounds like they feel like they could have gotten more money out of Trump and are having some remorse about that. That's not harm, that's remorse because maybe they didn't do their due diligence. Without harm there cannot be damages. The AG isn't even asking for damages so what's the basis of the suit?
After 2008 the laws and rules put in place pretty much compel a lender to treat every borrower exactly the same. They took the relationship factor out of the equation. Now I think some of those loans took place before 2008 but the point is that they were almost forced to ignore the relationship after 2008 and treat the Trump Organization the same as they would a brand new customer.



When you hand over financials they are either audited and come with an Auditors Statement or they aren't. If they aren't they are pretty much worthless. An Accountants review might be a third possibility but it's not anywhere near a full blown audit.


When I bought my business property my bank wanted my financials for 3 years, they also wanted tax returns(which I have professionally done) which in some small way backs up the financials. They also have all my banking info and they went through my accounts with a fine tooth comb and had questions about certain transactions that seemed to be random. It wasn't a full blown audit but they made sure I was worthy of a six figure mortgage.


In the Case of DeutscheBank they were loaning hundreds of millions. Does anyone really think they just took Trump's financials and called it good? Sure, The fact that they had been his biggest lender for a decade or more meant they had a pretty good relationship. I think Trump paid off a couple or really big loans in the months leading up to his candidacy or somewhere along that time frame. He probably didn't want those loans from a German financial institution because of the optics of it. I imagine DeutscheBank may have been a little upset by that and the early pay off may be what they are claiming as lost interest income or at least a portion of it. Still no harm though.

The point is that DB is one of the world's biggest multinational financial institutions. They've got high priced attorneys and accountants in house as well as independents available to comb over every inch of data supplied and even not supplied. If they didn't do that then it's not Trump's fault.
BTW A company I worked for back in the late 80s had a mid 6 figure mortgage and a sizeable line of credit with a local bank. The bank covenants just for that relationship required reviewed (not audited) financials each year by a CPA.

Maggie Haberman of the NYT advanced a 2nd theory-in addition to selling the top secret docs-which is that he took them to blackmail the u.s. like, if you even think about prosecuting me, i'll put all these u.s. spies on blast. to me that sounds like something trump would do.

but if that's what happened, why are there so many empty top secret folders? i think trump may have already sold some originals. or maybe he took the best docs and has already shipped 'em to trump tower or one of his other properties for safer long-term storage. i think the fbi should search his other properties for the missing docs. if they're nowhere to be found, maybe he's already sold the originals, which would be pretty dumb, even for him.

after watching all his scams, i've come to the conclusion that, even though he has a sixth grader's vocabulary, he's still an evil genius. i'm skeptical of any theory that leads to the conclusion that he is mentally retarded. so i don't believe that he's already sold the originals. i think they're at one of his other properties, probably in a safe that he thinks is secure.

and several top secret docs found next to his passports? sounds like he had some travel plans on his itinerary..

2nd question: what is the secret service supposed to do if the feds show up to arrest trump? help the feds lol? watch?

so, any ideas?

grammo, i meant trump tried to steal.. Originally Posted by pxmcc

still waitin fo those legit lincks, yo. Just sayin.

To make you ask questions? Works pretty good doesn’t it?