Have you ever been "ambushed" by yourself in a 20 x 30 foot room in low light unexpectedly by some asshole pushing his way through the door while his "partner" was next to you or in close proximity so that you had at most a couple of seconds to evaluate and respond to the situation unexpectedly presented to you in a manner that does not injure or kill those collateral present who were either outside or next door (downstairs) even, who were non-threatening?
Point shooting is a great idea at close distance. I am not debating shooting techniques. I recommend that everyone get as much training as they can, but I will not mandate training, as it is an exclusionary technique.
I will repeat it again, get as much training as you can afford. I will not mandate a training level beyond the basic proficiency test required during the CHL process.
Originally Posted by texasjohn1965
OilField ... it gets that way when it gets personal ... and this topic is not.
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There are repeated threads started and threads in which "violence" by hobbyists and providers' "companions" have been addressed and/or disclosed with varying responses, including but not limited to, the brandishing of handguns and in many, if not all, of those threads eventually someone starts talking trash about "carrying a piece" ... "carrying heat" ... blowing someone's ass away ... on and on.
Someone started this thread and I made a comment, which was invited, and then it gets personal with insulting remarks about my stability and agenda because I believe that someone ought not to engage in armed confrontations until they are trained to do so.
My comments were not directed to "John's" theme ... and for him to twist and cherry-pick my words, while engaging in personal attacks, IS consistent with SandBox dialogue. But he does have his own agenda.
John, I have sufficient personal experiences and training to comprehend the seriousness of rapidly progressing circumstances in close proximity when weapons are or may be involved and to be aware of the necessity for sufficient training and skills to properly and adequately respond to the unfolding conditions .... as has been described NUMEROUS times on this board and a past board. That answers your question as far as I am concerned, and I do not really care what your opinion is about my "status".
When one "carries" a handgun to a session I can think of only 2 reasons for doing so ..... defense in response to a threat of "deadly force" as defined by the Texas Penal Code and the case law interpreting the same .... or to impress the provider. You pick your reason.
And John, thank you for at least acknowledging the desireability of additional training beyond the basic qualifications for a CHL, which is ALL I have been repeatedly expressing as my opinion. "Mandate" is your word, not mine, and with your attitude here is your reminder "
to avoid being in" my "company....ever." What is your agenda, anyway?